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    wiifgarow @ 6/2/2015 11:07 AM EST
 "only you..and Nuunow..
    wiifgarow @ 6/2/2015 11:06 AM EST
 Abdi

Only and Nuunow are probably the only two visitors on this who possibly genuinely wnat Qaldaanland back to the fold or deathly emabrace as we call because you actualy have benign possibly even brotherly feelings for the qaldaans. the rest of somalis, including most who visit this also want qaldaans back. But shackled, humiliated , hung, drawn and quartered. That is a truer reflection of somaliness than yours. So us qaldans will stay away from being drawn and quartered if possible. You cant blame us for that can you?
    wiifgarow @ 6/2/2015 11:02 AM EST
 mashkuur

Talking of begging attitude. Do you know the light blue hanky you call your flag is teh only in the world directly copied from the UN flag? Now that is isku kolleyn only wallweyn can do.
    abdi mashkuur @ 6/1/2015 2:40 PM EST
 Wiif
I know you've no bushes, what I meant was cave-man,and at least you're less clan speaker than the one's I mentioned earlier.
In every sense the self-reliancy is a good human aspiration and I congratulate the people,of course minus you.
Do you realize slowly our people in the north are driven to feel isolated because the so-called leaders are intransigent and the rest of us want our brothers to be with us by all means. It surprise me when through media I see Mr Silanyo who looks like an angry box going into a boxing ring for a fight, with whom I do not know, he needs to chill out.

Be read Mr wiif with blue Somali flag because only 25 days are left till the independency day and my people in Erigavo, Hargaysa,Burao are going to celebrate in style this year.
    wiifgarow @ 5/30/2015 9:46 AM EST
 Mashkur

You gusy puit more weight on recognition than we do. It is part of your begging, aid, dependency agenda to think from world recognition flows milk and honey. We dont. I dont to want to sound like Gloria Gaynor but we will survive. We got our camels and sheep. Obama administration's sniggering hostility nor UN's war on us will ever kills us. It will make us stronger in the long-runm. So no recognitin but somaliland will never return.
    abdi mashkuur @ 5/25/2015 5:12 PM EST
 Sticky carrot!
I used to think that WIIF is a plain bushman who is sticking to the same old manuscript 91 fairy tale, but seriously he is at least a good fun on occasions with a realism that runs on a snail pace,will get there in the end.
However, when it comes to his foul-mouthing national heroes like Sayid Mohamed or A Sultan Tima'de, then it has no excuse even if he meant it to be humorous.
In my opinion, he is confused good man, unlike Sillies like DEEQLE, OBSERVER14, and worst of all DnationPunt and illiterate Issak soleman, all are tribal loving junkies with diminishing intellects.
    Stickorcarrot @ 5/25/2015 12:15 PM EST
 @Wiif

If you indeed know the fact that Isaq family's drive to a family
play ground won't be recognized, why don't you guys stop this
madness and rejoin your Somali brothers?

The name "Somaliland" does not exist geographically or politically.
Your family wants to fool the world into believing that this is
Euro created land and therefore the world should respect. But, Somalis
won't buy this childish manipulation.
    Stickorcarrot @ 5/25/2015 12:04 PM EST
 This dude is spewing venom in defense of his imaginary tribal land
and in the process insulted every Somali academic and most of our
founders while defending foreigners! Hey, calling couple of loner
Cadaans as academics won't change the reality on the ground.

This German dude or even Cambodians won't change a bit. I think
you guys should stop insulting Somalis and stop burying your
head in the sand.
    wiifgarow @ 5/25/2015 9:48 AM EST
 Tops

You are being graceless in defeat. I am never said Somaliland will be recognised, I said being one clan never stopped other one-clan nations to be recognised. The two claim are very different. Sland is unlikely to be recognised for another 50 years or more but this would've been the case even if the place had more clans than Clannistan capital.
    topclan @ 5/24/2015 3:11 PM EST
 Wiif

Somaliland region is not a place where one clan lives but it is a place run by one clan who want to secede from the rest of Somalia.

"You and other Anti-landers seem to think that Somaliland is one-clan enity"

If you really think that you can get recognition as a one-clan entity, why don't you go it alone?

The IC don't want to do something if they can avoid it, and recognising Somaliland falls into that category.

The chances of Isaaqland being recognised are next to nothing, which is why you are carrying the name Somaliland so that you can claim the 1960 borders between Somaliland state and Somalia.

It is ridiculous to base your whole argument on 5 days.

Your best argument was the chaos in Somalia, but that is now fading, your best argument now is the 25 years of autonomy.

The autonomy which Somaliland and Puntland enjoyed is the best reason for federalism in Somalia and the IC seems to think that is best Solution for Somalia including Somaliland.



I don't remember any of these nations you've mentioned being de facto states and breaking away from homogenous nation.

"Now gert on with your wallweyn figt with Fiqi but please stay out of Sland affairs."

Says the guy who is on here constantly commenting on Somalia's affairs.
    wiifgarow @ 5/24/2015 8:53 AM EST
 And Tops you seem to think Sayid Abdilel Xasan was some kind of hero. In Somaliland we have a very different narrative of the man. HOL will censor me if I say what we really think about him but lets juts 'hero' is most certianly not a description we attach to him. Al-Shabab but nastier comes closer. You see how different we are?
    wiifgarow @ 5/24/2015 8:47 AM EST
 Topclan

You and other Anti-landers seem to think that Somaliland is one-clan enity; and that being one clan somehow excludes it from being succesful or getting recognition. Both of thesea sumptions are naive to say the least. Forstly somalialnd is inhabited by many clans including Darood, Issa, gadabursi, Isaqs and others. Secondly being one clan has never been a a brrier to nationhood or recognition or success. All the min-Arab statelets in the Gulf showering your 'govt' are one clans entities. Botswana is one clan, Djib too. Monaco, Licts, Andorra and at least 12 Euro countries are one big families let alone clans. Now gert on with your wallweyn figt with Fiqi but please stay out of Sland affairs.
    Zami @ 5/23/2015 6:22 PM EST
 Nin Culus Ahmed,

What reality are you talking about? There is no country on earth called "Somaliland". There mentally ill people who say it's a country it's "reality", but those individuals are literally crazy making up countries that don't exist. Don't be stupid.
    Zami @ 5/23/2015 4:27 PM EST
  topclan,

I h*te separatists because they are of the devil. Who would divide they're own people? Silanyo will end up in hell, what a sick evil man. As for the brainwashed youth in NW Somalia, they need re-education. Nothing about Somali history is taught to them in schools. The only agenda Silanyo & his filthy SNM trash serve is the TPLF. Till this day Greater Somalia haunts Ethiopia, so they have destabilized Somalia to the maximum extent possible with the hope of "Somaliland" gaining recognition. With strong lobbying worldwide Somalis' exposed completely the SNM agenda, dooming it to collapse. Now more than ever Somalia has partners assisting it to stand up again. Kenya destabilized itself going into Somalia, which I am happy for. Ethiopia has been exposed globally as a tyrannical country engaged in massive human rights abuses. It has multiple resistance groups fighting the central government, all this without Somalia lifting a finger. They will disintegrate in the future, while Somalia is reborn.
    topclan @ 5/23/2015 1:23 PM EST
 Zami

In Somali, it is all about tribal. So don't h4te people in Somaliland for doing what they think is best for their clan.

People might be mistaken but it's no reason to h4te them. Many people are mislead by their leaders, who are just trying to further their self-ish interests.

Some people in Somaliland want to secede from Somalia because they think it is in their clan's interest.

I have always had the believe that there has never been a single united polity in Somaliland.

There was the short period between winning independence and joining Somalia to create Somali Republic, but otherwise it has been either a single clan driven or colonial manipulation.

Even the colonials dealt with each clan separately.

There is absolutely no case the birth of the Somaliland state in 1960 was to have a separate state from Somalia, it was to win independence from Britain and then to join with Somalia when it won its independence from Italy under the UN Trusteeship.

The reality is that Somaliland state that was born in 26 June and lasted until 1 July1960, was just an accident of birth and not a real state.

It was revived in 1991, but its instigators were SNM, a clan militia made up of a single clan.

Despite the attempts to make it seem like it was more than a single clan secession, Dahir Riyaale was made president, it remains just that.

The current make up of Somaliland political are exclusive from a single clan, give or take a few strayed sheep.

It seems that Somaliland has stopped pretending their project is anything other SNM project yet they are still sticking to be recognised.

Why would the world recognise Somaliland when it is so obvious to the world it is just a clan project?
    topclan @ 5/23/2015 12:12 PM EST
 Academic warrior? LOOOOOOL

Confusing clan identity with national identity?

Somali politics has always been based on corruption, nepotism and tribalism.

History favours winners, while Omaar and Sayid were Somali heroes who fought heroically against the colonials, SYL actually succeeded in not only winning freedom but also by establishing the first Somali state.

"Hawo disclosed her conspiracy and intellectual dishonesty indirectly by arguing that if the Somalilanders or the people of Somaliland are acknowledged and regarded differently with a diverse national identity it will decay the idea of Greater Somalia."

An imagined difference? The only difference Somalis have is clan, which is at heart of the matter, isn't? I don't need to guess which clan you are from because we all know the only clan which overwhelming supports Somaliland state is Isaaq.

Greater Somalia was not a something fabricated by the south, as the author claims, Somalilanders joined Somalia in the full knowledge of apparently being acknowledged and regarded differently and having a diverse national identity.


"Most interestingly, the two Somali Professors who spoiled the history of the Somali people by telling mendacities are Abdi Samater and Ali Khalif Galaydh. This two academic elites are from Somaliland, but astonishingly, they have two things in common, they both married their wives from the Puntland region of Somalia."

First of all, that is one thing not two. Secondly, marrying someone from a different region in the same country is not astonishing or unusual.

"In this sense, they have been ideologically hijacked by their brilliant wives who are well-educated and politically talented."

This is not only very disrespectful to the professors but also very far from the truth.

Mr Galaydh doesn't support Puntland and has actually created an administration, Khatumo, from a territory claimed by both Puntland and Somaliland.

In the few articles by Mr Samatar that I have read, he has been very critical of clan federalism and fragmentation of Somalia, an agenda which Puntland supports wholeheartedly.
    abdi mashkuur @ 5/23/2015 11:49 AM EST
 Wiif
You're a comedian with no passport!
    wiifgarow @ 5/23/2015 11:34 AM EST
 Abdi mshukur

You are welcome to Hargeisa. Anytime. Even Zami and Fiqijini. Just make sure to bring your passports and your visasas are valid and not bought from a mumdul-swelling 'civil-servant' somewhere near the Bakara Market..if you see what I mean..
    abdi mashkuur @ 5/23/2015 10:46 AM EST
 So  brother Zami, I think the worst is over, all these shayaadiin either writing or posing
and misrepresenting an entire communities as if they agree with them are the last
remnants of a breed bushmen.
I hope you're ready for the June-July Jamboree for good people,listen to the song:
Soomaalidu manta, Soomaalidu maanta
Hore sare kacay oo, horeybey,horeybey
Horeybey u socotaa soo noqona maysee!
Get you flag ready or even dress as one! we'll do even in HARGAYSA.
    abdi mashkuur @ 5/23/2015 10:42 AM EST
 Zami.
Calm down!
what possessed you today, you were a calm, collected and a probable
leader in waiting. They say don't ask the question if you don't like
the answer!.
The author here could be the head of departmental cleaning and his views
aren't necessarily all correct every way, so perhaps you're reading too
much in it. To be honest with you I only read the title and conclusion of
most articles here and never did I spend more than 2-3 minutes.
To me a donkey can dhing-dhong or heehaa however much he/she likes, It will
never affect me if don't take it seriously.
    wiifgarow @ 5/23/2015 10:37 AM EST
 Zami

Me too. oh yes and your rage too. I am nots ure why the term Somaliland sends some people doolaly with rage. Pehaps you coudl help us with this zami? A prime example of study Slandophobia amongst ceratin groups in Somalia
    wiifgarow @ 5/23/2015 10:35 AM EST
 Every Somalialnder knew that the vitriolic attacks by the self-apointed "Somali" intellegentsia on the the creator of this obscure literary publication were mots likely motivated by issues other than pure Somaliness. we knew it might have to do with teh mention of the term 'somaliland'. same peopel have launched attacks against the late great Professor IM Lewis. But yes the level of english of this writer who claims to haed a dept of a major Red Brick English univesrity is aq littel bit worrying. Is he really who he claims?
    FiqiJin @ 5/23/2015 9:31 AM EST
 This young man is so disrespectful to his elders, who are much more educated than him. What he penned here is nothing more than a deep-seated personal affliction of subjectivity based on clan emotions. His charge of both professors with being mentally " hijacked" by their Puntlander wives  is an insult to his wise and over-learned elders. My advice: please seek some help with your clan infection!    
    rasimaal @ 5/23/2015 12:08 AM EST
 Now this is one angry fella,one big load of hogwash from SNM argumentology "professor".
    Zami @ 5/22/2015 11:15 PM EST
 I can literally feel his rage. Someone needs to tell this guy one clan cannot claim the right to create a country. This guy is talking about dishonesty & mentions nothing about the deceit of "Somaliland". My advice to the author is simple, calm down, it's over. When the senile Guurti extended your "elections" (can only chose candidate from Issaq clan) by 22 months the international community washed it's hand clean of this trash in Hargeisa. Silanyo, his cabinet & family are going to be hit with travel bans & asset freezes if the election date is not changed. They came to loot from the people of NW Somalia & when they're done to go enjoy they're spoils in Europe. These people are the closest thing to the devil. If anyone reading this & is an advocate for "Somaliland"

1. Go straight hell
2. Your supporting evil
3. Your not a Muslim

You people are a gaggle of mental patients.
    Geedi baabow @ 5/22/2015 10:06 PM EST
 Qoraagu wuxuu miiska soo saaray qodobada uu diidan yahay, dabadeedna ka niqaashay wuxuu ku diidan yahay, dabadeedna xuddunta cilladda ka niqaashay. Qofkii ku diidan wuxuu qoray waa u madaxbanaanyahay inuu naqdiyo isagoo u maraya asluubka qoraal.  Shakhsiyan aad baan uga helaa doodaha iska soo horjeeda waayo wax badan baad ka faa'ideysanaysaa.  Mahadsanid Maxammed.
    Geedi baabow @ 5/22/2015 9:53 PM EST
 Qoraagu wuxuu miiska soo saaray qodobada uu diidan yahay, dabadeedna ka niqaashay wuxuu ku diidan yahay, dabadeedna xuddunta cilladda ka niqaashay. Qofkii ku diidan wuxuu qoray waa u madaxbanaanyahay inuu naqdiyo isagoo u maraya asluubka qoraal.  Shakhsiyan aad baan uga helaa doodaha iska soo horjeeda waayo wax badan baad ka faa'ideysanaysaa.  Mahadsanid Maxammed.
    Zami @ 5/22/2015 8:09 PM EST
 Clearly this guy is upset.
    siinay @ 5/22/2015 3:32 PM EST
 Little knowledge couple with clan zealous. the world will not intertian clan based state period.  It time for northern somalia elites to show political maturity n confidence and join the federal government of somalia. No time left to waste.

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