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ali mustafa @ 9/7/2009 4:17 PM EST  Fiqi!!waad baxsatey haye?next time dont you ever declare war that you can`t fight!!!fuley yohow xun!!!mardambena yaan kaa maqlin "doorodaada iga cesho"!!aaaahua hua huaaa!!     xamarweyne @ 9/5/2009 7:11 PM EST  It is a fact that Somaliland is peaceful when compared to the southern. Somalia was also peaceful during Mohamed Siyad Barre, but people did not have freedom. In order to get freedom, people started to overthrow that government and still in that mess, but eventually will form government elected by the people. On the other hand, It is widely known that Somaliland is ruled by one party led by Mohamed Ibrahim igal and now Riyaale who was a memeber of the NSS in Somalia during Siyad barre regime. The cartoonist that Mr Ismail mentioned, Amir Amir, posted another political cartoonist showing when associate of MR Riyaale asked what is the next step for the election since US and other are opposing the government's agenda, MR Riyaale answered that the goverment without recognition is free to choose its destany including for reappointment of the axisting government. The southerns are just worrying that Somaliland may start civil war after 18 years of lack of recognition, but it is not that they enjoying what is happening in the north. So before MR Ismail blame the sourtherns, get life.     ali mustafa @ 9/5/2009 6:35 PM EST  Fiqi!!A rebel?,,yes!!!.a brave?,,,not sure about that!!But a generous? you feil that.Where you said "he knows a friend from a foe,,to dont descibes the people you are talking about!!it all go back to "Values&what we like to hear,wish for&think we are rather than whats on ground&real!!aaaaaaaaaahua hua huaa     fiqicigaal @ 9/5/2009 3:35 PM EST  ali mustafa Yes iam proud to be a nomad and a Camel boy. But do you know that every Camel boy may be a rebel in his own ways but he is brave and rescilient, generous and selfless, he knows his friend from his foe and he will never betray his folks. Iam not being philosophical but if you (nargale) were allowed to develop according to your own instincts and to your own inclinations as that of the Camel boy (Fiqi)you would have undergone such a radicle transformation as to make the Reer magaal cower and cringe. That is home work for you. hahahahaha!     ali mustafa @ 9/5/2009 1:13 PM EST  Aaaaaaaaaaaahu hua hua!!Fiqi? you are a real camelboy!!but you sound like acowboy!!Since when camel people understood fair game?Gaadmo,dhagar,iyo lugooyo ey ka shaqeenjireen!!!!aaaaaaaaaahua huaaaa     fiqicigaal @ 9/5/2009 7:27 AM EST  ali mustafa Ok let us put aside religion and let us be in the ring you and i, mano e mano. Bring it on, the platform is ours. I challenge you!     ali mustafa @ 9/4/2009 4:16 PM EST  There we ago again!!!markaan diin iyo ramadhaan iyo sunna aan la aaminsaneyen-lagu daba dhuumanjirey!!!we only take ALLAH when we dont have an escape rute or when we dont want to face the thruth!!aaaaaahua hua huaaaa     fiqicigaal @ 9/4/2009 2:26 PM EST  ali mustafa I don't see what made you think that i spoiled the debate when in fact it was you who in all fairness can not convey meaningful conversation but you can only critisize those who have the intelligence to see, to sense and to say the right things where and when it necessary. Yes those who can say what you are not able to say in a civil way without dramatising the issue in hand. Of course, you can deliver the hyene laugh which to can be nuisance some times. Ramadaan Kariim. By the way, i was talking to simbe when you ambushed me, you did the first blood.       ali mustafa @ 9/4/2009 1:31 PM EST  By the way,i dont care if Somaliland win its case or collapses,but my interest is to point whats really wrong with you Somalis&why you can`t ever be nation again&why you dont belong to any human family&why you can`t compare yourselves with one&why you`ll keep drifting away from each other&why every relation between two somalis are based on ego,personal interests,lies&bullyness.Ahhhhhhhhhhhhauaaaaaa     ali mustafa @ 9/4/2009 1:21 PM EST  Simbe,that lane of talks was taken before between a guy called Naargale&Fiqicigaal&they did not produce ameaningfull understandings,but reised more questions.!!!!!!!!!!Note that If Findland&Portugal can share a common currency,its becouse of understanding one unother&having a common goal wich is based on friendship,respect&freewill.And not force&intimidations,if that was the case then the Soviet Empire could haved preveiled&ruled the world.!!!AAAAAHUA     fiqicigaal @ 9/4/2009 10:13 AM EST  simbe It is amazing how some clans like to be seen better than others when in fact we are all in the same half sunk ship whether we deny it or whether we take responsibility and face the reality to save ourselves from extinction. No amount of explaination can convince them the curse that arrived first in southern Somalia can easily spread to the rest of the country and all the signs are there for even a child to comprehend it. It is true the south must be built on solid foundation this time round if it is to last. The same principle applies to Somaliland and Puntland, otherwise they too will sink back into the soft ground and become swallowed up by the same curse.     simbe @ 9/4/2009 6:16 AM EST  Ali Mustafa Hadda ayaad isku bantay, what do you mean by that!! “the truth is its somalia who cant survive with somaliland&they deeply know that they cant build a carish without Somaliland blessings” You are kidding me!! Isla weyni been xageed ku tegin. Isuqaba aan loo qabin oo isla qaaya weyn ayaa jira. The problem is not that Somalia can’t survive without Somaliland the issue is; Its unnecessary and you gain nothing by clan entities called Land-Land. Local governments is allowed, that’s all- It’s globalisation age Finlandeys iyo Portqiis ayaa lacagtii xitaa isku darsay oo kun mail isku jira, af iyo dhaqana ka dhexeyn.     yasin4020 @ 9/4/2009 12:17 AM EST  shoulders hunched, waiting for the screams of notice and alarms, mooryaan"  is here :) run for cover the next thing, % is you see, somalis & their masters the dreaded ETH. behind them !!! ow ? my god :(  somalis. Once more, we have been betrayed; naturally by colonial powers, And we have seen our so called crab parlim... colapse. Unfurtunately! it does not affect D.JABUTI-LAND, PUNTLAND, BANNADER-LAND & OF ALL SOMALILAND!! The the only nay-sayers are the ones to watch out for, looking at this list, it won't take me long to figure out, the enemy of Somaliland: & by god'will help me decend on you carrying the wrath of GOD,with where i will yeild my sword to destroy anybody who will come to my homeland ( B.S ) AL BASHER'S suckey!!     ali mustafa @ 9/3/2009 3:33 PM EST  Simbe!!wherever "they"Somalilanders sit&dwell doesn`t matter,atleast they like it&are trying to live within the realism realm of what they have,chose&decided,but what beats me is why Somalis,from other parts of the continent can`t accept&let go of Somaliland&its stupid boat,while they can`t offer offer anything else more than"waxba matihiin,you can`y survive without us,domiya,guba,qarxiya,caaya&midiyaha usoo lista?the truth is its somalia who cant survive with somaliland&they deeply know that they cant build a carish without Somaliland blessings&they cant get that blessings they need unless they recognise the existings of somaliland&its karama!!!aaaaaahua hua hua       simbe @ 9/3/2009 3:05 PM EST  Ali mustafa aka Nargale kkk Sxb, That’s true peace loving attitude and culture are well known factors in Somaliland. Remember HOOYADII FANKA Hargeysa- We all Somalis are sitting on one stupid boat, which is not taking us anywhere, it just wondering around on high seas where every day we overboard the dead bodies who die at the night. Please don’t tell me we Somalilanders sit on the best place for that stupid boat Hawd You are right I just heard there is a oil , gas and minerals in Puntland, time will tell if the claim was right. After all they have the richest fish stock on earth where red sea and Indian Ocean meets, there is no secret that area is rich of plankton, which give fish a all nutrition it needs and increases in plenty in number-     Hawd @ 9/3/2009 12:55 PM EST  Yasin4020, I agree with brother 100%, some people who comment believe and stuck in the situations of 1970s. Simbe, I always respect your views even though we at times disagree on some things. As for the oil you claimed to have been found in Puntland, either you must be kidding or half-asleep and well behind in the real present situation. Mark my words Simbe, there is not oil in Puntland, if you realyy believe in that do not tell other people otherwise you will get laughed at your mentality, we Somalis have been claiming to have found oil in Somalia since 1960, what a joke and self-entertaining beliefs!     ali mustafa @ 9/3/2009 11:57 AM EST  Sorry simbe!!I am not saying Somaliland is paradise&iam aware terrible crimes still takes place,but still is has something no maney can buy&thats -peace,respecting atittude toward each other,love for their land,people&cultur.they have reasoning power&a law to abide.they have elders who see&reason beyond clan,ego&interests,they still have respect&a helping heart to rest of somali,eventhough the rest of somali are working hard&are turning every stone to destroy it.     ali mustafa @ 9/3/2009 11:37 AM EST  Simbe,i must challenge you on one thing,Somaliland has something that the rest of somalia never had&will never have.they ot something nor oil,nor gold can ever buy&thats whats bothering most people who cant use reason to solve anything.aaaaaaaaahua but i like your style,i dont agree with it though,,,aaaaaaahua     simbe @ 9/3/2009 3:44 AM EST   Hawd iyo Yasin4020 You are trying to be Somaliland nationalist like many other Somalilanders. There is nothing wrong to rally for Somaliland independent or their well being but you are not in touch with reality on the ground. You behave like that Somaliland has got everything which rest of the country hasn’t. Somaliland poorest of all Somali regions like Puntland but Puntland has well known oil gas reserves and south is fertile and rich. Interims of uncertainty, conflict, poverty, and the luck of public service it shares with rest of the country. War can begun anytime even in Somaliland or Puntland despite the people’s peace loving attitude. You ly*ng to yourselves, the problem is huge everywhere in Somalia and don’t talk to us like we from another country I myself have seen my own eyes Hargeysa in 2008. Hawd you mention “emotional posting” yes that’s true from bottom of my heart; I wish for best the people of Somaliland because they are my brother that’s how I se it. The last ting you need in Somalia is: being arrog*nt and claim you are superior because you are not like any other Somali, they all same sh*t maryooley oo qab been ah wada diley ayagoo xaarka cunaya mayd walaalkiisna ku tul taagan--- Dameero         Sahalsiidi @ 9/2/2009 8:35 PM EST  Yasin Waa adigii meel kale ugu baroortee, bal akhri meesha hoose waxaan godane ka iri, adoo miyir qaba.     yasin4020 @ 9/2/2009 5:52 PM EST  Hawd bro! you are wasting your time trying to presuade some left over Faqash, as they are the ones who burnt us and are constantly burnning their own homes while their childeren are sleeping in it. Somaliland has viable elections and believe me you can ask    djibsomali   about his tiny little DJubut-ass if they ever considered doing the same, because we all know that the Affary party would win! We have something that the rest of somali wish they had and to top it off, our children are safe and so is our homes. I visited Hargaisa last year and i was appauled to see our brother's, sister's ect. Complaining how hard and futile the south is with no uncertainty of anything. We know we have enough room for the displaced people in somaliland, but we also don't want Somaliland bashers, Alshabbab, hizbul, TFG, Etiopian soldiers etc. know we have no space for Somaliland bashers ! LONG LIVE SOMALILAND!!!! hahahah     ali mustafa @ 9/2/2009 5:45 PM EST  Aligaagale!!its ok to express your views as long as they carry facts of history,cultural/religiouse flavours or simply philosophical recomendations,views,urguments&facts,but what i see there is neither of it.I will want you to understand the facts about democracy&freedom of speech-includes-"nin ciyaar dalbadey-cilaaq dalbey"if you can talk about a whole group of poeple,why must you think people can`t say things about you?for reason chew this"If your richness is of history is not beyond SSDF&SPM,i beg god not show me your poorness,emptyness&jaahilness of yours!!!aaaaaaaaaaaahua hua huaaaa..you need school of naargale!!!     Sahalsiidi @ 9/2/2009 4:49 PM EST  Ismaciil Xassan ragga aad ka hadleysid sow kuwan oo miiran maaha?. Waxaanse is weydiiyay yaa iska leh webka Somalimirror, cantarabaqash. Godane intuu wiilashii Xamar laayeey buu leeyahay intii soo hortayna waxay ku dhamaadeen Tahriib. War ninku munaafaqsanaa. Amiirka Al-shabaab Sh.Mukhtaar Abu-Zubayr oo ka hadley Somaliland. By Somalimirror on 2 Sep, 2009 10:15 PM in Main, Wararka Amiirka Dhaqdhaqaaqa Al-Shabaabul Mujaahidiin Sh.Mukhtaar Abu-Zubayr oo fariin cod ah soo gaarsiiyay Saxaafadda Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa waxaa uu uga hadlay Xaaladaha Amaan, Dhaqaale, Siyaasadeed & Maamul ee Somaliland. Sh.Mukhtaar Abu-Zubayr, waxa uu sheegay 18 Sano ka dib Shacabka Somaliland, wax hormar ah oo lataaban karo inaaney gaarin, ayna la degeen Maamulo xun oo dhinac walba ka cunaqabateeyay. Dhaqaalihii wadanka ayuu ku sheegay Hadalkiisa in loo gacangeliyay Shisheeye, sida Xoolihii Noolahaa oo loo xanibay Ganacsade Shishee iyo Dekeda Ber-bera ay noqotey meel gabaahiir ah. Shaqo la’aan baahsan oo ka jirta Wadanka ayuu sidoo kale ka hadley Sh.Mukhtaar Abu-Zubayr, waxa uuna sheegay dhalintu inay arintaa daraadeed Tabriib ku dhamaadeen. Inta yar ee la shaqaaleysiiyay Shacabka laga dhigey Dhar-cad. Xidhiidhka Maamulka Rayaale & Itoobiya ka dhaxeeya ayuu sidoo kale ka hadley, waxa uuna arintaa ku tilmaamey mid khatar weyn oo dhan walba ah dalka iyo dadkaba ku ah. Fariinta Sh.Mukhtaar Abu-Zubayr ayaa sidoo kale xambaarsaneyn fariin u shacabka Somaliland kula hadlayay, waxa uuna kula taliyay Dhaqan gelinta Shareecada Islaamka inay u istaagaan kana tashadaan Maamul cidkale aan dan ka laheyn. Culimada iyo waxgaradka ayuu sidoo kale la hadley waxa uuna kula taliyay inay u istaagaan hanuuninta, wanaajinta iyo badbaadinta Shacabka, Cilmigoodana uga faa’iideeyaan. Dhalinyarta ayuu sidoo kale Sh.Mukhtaar Abu-Zubayr la hadley waxa uuna kula taliyay inay dowrkooda badbaadinta Umada uga aadan u istaagaan. Ugu danbeyntii Shacabka ayuu si guud ula hadley waxa uuna ugu baaqey inaaney soo dhaweysan Itoobiya iyo wax la hal maala, guryahooda ayna ka kireynin kana agdhaawin meel ay joogaan. Fariintan uu Sh.Mukhtaar Abu-Zubayr u dirtey Maamulka Somaliland oo noqoneysa tii ugu horeysay, iyada oo cod ahna laga sii daayay qaar ka mid ah Idaacadaha Muqdisho, ayaanu jirin hadal jawaab u ah oo ilaa iyo hadda ka soo baxey dhanka Maamulka Somaliland.     saba @ 9/2/2009 4:21 PM EST  IMPATIENTLY, rather.     saba @ 9/2/2009 4:19 PM EST  SIGMA, Waan qaatay xaalka, however big dhafoorkiisa might be. Sow kumaan sheegin in my comment.."waxba kaama baran, waxba ikuma haysid"; was i LYING; NOP. Instead of you ASKING me and CRAVING to know what the names of the 17 are, instead after i answer to that, you would jump INPATIENTLY to ask me what the USES for them are;instead after i respond you would BEG to KNOW where in Somalia are they concentrated.... You went ahead and conveyed your dislike for the profession of your ancestors, EVER to be mentioned. I TESTED, and you failed; TIME AND AGAIN, TIME AND AGAIN. Laakiin , i give it you, waxaad dhaantaa the notoriously st*u*pid, unashamedly PR*O*FANE ones. And yes, you are RIGHT, Somalia shares with the many unfortunate, w*ar imposed nations whose cur*se is MINERAL WEALTH. Geopolitical importance adds another cu*rse for Somalia and Afghanistan.     Hawd @ 9/2/2009 10:39 AM EST  mysomalia, Waxaan u maleynayaa nin isagu buka oo aan is ogeyn ayaa tahay ee bal is hubso keena buka labadeena. Waxaa aan u maleynayaa in aadan fahmi waxa aan qorey, ee bal marka hore fahan inta aadan sida caruurta iska oohin oo cid aflagaadeyn Waxaa la yidhi runtu ragga madisho ee way ka nixisaa! Markaa saaxiib runta ayaa diidan tahay asdiga iyo qaar kale oo badani, laakiin waa iska ogolaan doontaa marka ay dani idin baddo. Ta kale Aligaagaale waa nin lala doodi karo oo hadalkiisu uu macne sameynayo oo aan sidaada oo kale emotional aheyn. adamjama, I can understand your cantrabaqash and the poems of your late uncle, the Pig, or as you call him Sayid M. A. Hassan which you referred here. We do not approve of his poems, and as said call him the Pig up in the north! So, you guys will always be hopeless as ever, if have got ears to hear and eyes to see go and help your people as " charity always begins at home".       Hawd @ 9/2/2009 9:55 AM EST  Simbe, As with your emotional posting, do not forget that brothers were k'illing each other since Since Abel and Cain who were bl'ood brothers and children of Adam and Eve. And this world was made for the v'iolence and b'loodshed and only those who are clever enough to escape it will be spared! There is a Somali that " always goats get into trouble with their legs". We always create troubles unknowingly for ourselves and then cry afterwards like kids.     Hawd @ 9/2/2009 9:54 AM EST  Testing testing testing...........................     sigma-soma @ 9/2/2009 8:52 AM EST  Xaal qaado Saba mid dhafoor wayn. Balse runtii ma xasuusan karo sobobta aan magacaaga ugu daray laakiin ninka kale waan ku waday. Mida kale, ismood siiska naga daa aniguunbaa wax fahmi karada iyo geesta aad noo riixayso. Reer guuraa nimadu ceeb maaha ama lama odhan karo reer guuraa ayaa tahay midaa la ajligeedna waxyaalaha qaar ma baran kartid mana fahmi kartid. Waxan jeclahay in aan fahansanaa ama aan war u hayey sobobta ka danbaysa dagaalka somalia balse somalia oo kaliya maahee aduunka oodhan baa Yeekaha layskugu rogaa waana wax soo jiray soona jiri doona balse waa bulsho iyo intay ka fahanto. Xasuusnow cilmi waa in aad leedahay iyo in aad is moodsiiso. Raali noqo Qaali     simbe @ 9/2/2009 6:35 AM EST  Saba Yes; We Somalis need real Education about how real world works, or we will be cheated and on the other hand if we have enough education we will not kill each other either. Bothers never kill each other when god gave a beautiful country. You are rabshooley and I am sure this poor Jap have hard hand waiting at home. Undress Saba need more than a Jap, even Simbe the lion will have some difficulties to sit on and keep her calm with this one always angry Rabshooley, that’s my guess, kkkk lol     saba @ 9/2/2009 4:52 AM EST   Since Adam and Eve, real men sought after and were und*ressing FABOLOUS women. I am not sure about Casha Qani(s) undressing what kind of women!!. Perhaps NURADIN FARAH should be asked what kind; kkk. "educating ourselves" says he, Ha ha haaaa.     simbe @ 9/2/2009 4:33 AM EST  Saba “I am collecting more info about the 17 macdan from the Japanese guy, he is "kind" to me.” KKKK of course he should be kind to you! He undresses you. Otherwise he is asss hole. Take your Jap, Alshabaab and your Xisbul Xaram with you and let our Macdal lay underground until we educate ourselves how real world works Lol! Back to topic; Somaliland as a peace loving society will sort out their deference’s with in peaceful manner. I am sure.     saba @ 9/2/2009 12:44 AM EST   When you read a news reported on HOL tht says: Alshabab oo qof dumar ah oo BADIIL ku qodaysa bacaadka Baraawe karbaash ku xukuntay.... That is me :).     saba @ 9/1/2009 11:20 PM EST   BADIIL inaan qaato aa haysa oo aan Somaliya QODIS ka bilaabo, meesha RAG kuma hayee,LOL. I am collecting more info about the 17 macdan from the Japanese guy, he is "kind" to me.     saba @ 9/1/2009 11:16 PM EST  Sababta ay doodda macaadinta hadda uga dhex dilaacday RAGGA addunkan iska leh, waa iyadoo SHIINAHA uu XANIBAAD ku soo rogay 17 in Shiinaha laga dhoofiyo. Taaso gacanta Shiinaha galinaysa AWOOD ay kula gorgortamaan JABANKA iyo Maraykanka oo iayaga haya TECHNOLOGICAL KNOW HOW of futur HIGH TECH. Just to let you know, incase i am lucky and you WONDER WHY.     saba @ 9/1/2009 11:04 PM EST  Shiinaha sababtay jabka maraykan ee Somaliya ugu faraxsanayaeen waa arin dhaqaale, oo maanta iyaga KALIYA aa loo doonta 17 macdan ee Somaliya ay la wadaagto shiinaha. Also note to those who say Somalia waxaa isku haysta Laba koox oo Islaamiyiin ah. Yay yihiin labada koox. Hal dhinac waan gartay waa Shabab iyo Xizbulislam. Dhinaca kale yaa waaye?!!. Shariif, Janaqow IYO?!!. Waxaan aniga ogahay Shariif ,Janaqow, U.N wallad Cabdaal , Uganda , RWANDA iyo ETHIOPIA. Waa iga su'aale, goormay Uganda, Ruwanda, Ethiopia iyo UN Islamists noqdeen. Waxaan la yaabaa , MAXAA indhaha idin tiray, CAQLIGA inuusan ilaahay iduunku deeqin waan arkaaye?!!. War heedhaha, dagaalka koofur Somaliya ka socdaa waa mid u dhexeeya Shabab/xizbulislam iyo FOREIGN interest. Marka waxba aniga Dagaal Ahli ah baa koofur ka dhamaan la' ha iigu wacdinina.     saba @ 9/1/2009 10:54 PM EST  SIGMASOMA, Ma aanan fahmin sababtaad ii dhex galisay muran aanan qayb ka ahayn!!. Walaal aniga FALAARTAYDA meel DHEER bay gaartaa, waxyaalahana iska REER-GUURAA-talk ah ma dhex galo aniga. Runtii waan ku xajiimoodaa markay reer guuraaga yiraahdaan.."waad iga masayree", "anaa kaa badiya", "waxba kaama baran", "ma rabo inaan barto", "waxba iskuma haysid", "qoladaada haddaysan ahayn dad waan u fiicnaan lahayn";etc,etc. Maqaalka cinwaankiisaanba jeclaysan, marka kuma jiro doodda labada qaawan ee aan isqaadin. Waxaanse kuu sheegaa inaan jiray DOOD kale oo JAPANESE website ka socotay. Dooddaas waxay ku saabsanayd 17 macdan ee adduunka ugu qaalisan uguna gabaabsisan loona isticmaalo waqtigaan , loona isticmaali doono mustaqbalka TECHNOLOGIESka hadda jira iyo kuwa MUSTAQBALKA la filayo. Aniga waxaan dooddaas u galay inaan wax ka barto mutacalimiinta isku haya macaadiin aanan magacyadooda waligay maqal. Waxaa isla hal dhinac ahaa JAPANESEka iyo MARAYKAN, dhinaca kalana wiilal CARTAMAYA oo reer SHIINA ah. Dooddii say u socotay Somalia iyo Yaman baa DALAQ soo yiri? hana moodin inay i garanayeen inaan Somali ahay. MARNA iimaysan garaynayn. War i dhamaantiis walaal,- Dagaalka Somaliya adiga waa kuu QABIIL, qolya kalana waa u 17 macdan aadan aqoon u lahayn haddii DAMEERO laydiin soo saaro, iyo kuwa aad taqaan. Shiineeska kuwa ka socday aad bay ugu faraxsanaayeen JABKA iyo DULIGA maraykan ka gaaray Somaliya. Marka waa iga intaas kolay Macaadin tafaashiiseeda adinka waxba ku fali maysaan..... QOLOQOLODA inoo wada?!!. Dib baan idiinku soo noqon doonaa inshallaha, qoladii i qancisaan la jiraa.     adamjama @ 9/1/2009 8:22 PM EST  There is Somali saying "Madax muuqda iyo mindi saawir ah midna lagama samro", for that reason I will keep debating with you though you sometimes sound hopelessly ridiculous like when you wrote "Initially, Somalia was created by Somaliland, and then when we realised it was not succeeding into a viable country we then destroyed it". How do you come to that conclusion when every historical facts(British archives & Sayid poems) clearly states your people supported the British occupation over Somali freedom fighters. Did you forget "Iidoor waqaashiyo kufriga wacad allow yaale, waa niman walaala ah tan iyo waaga aakhiro e". I can give you hundreds of poems of that era that shows your position. Remember, we were not born yesterday & we do not have amnesia. Since thought provoking speeches almost always go over your head let me remind you a 1950's song "Hawdow magacaaga....... haybso calankaaga".     aligaagaale @ 9/1/2009 7:41 PM EST  Ali Mustafa I am expressing my point of view, no offence, and since Somaliland claims to be democracy, allow me to do so. lol If there is any point in my posting you want to challenge, highlight it please. I am genuinely convinced that what is going on in Somalia, including Somaliland, is good only for raising false hopes. I do not mean I am against peace achieved by the good people of Somaliland but I am convinced clanism destroys at the long term; people in Somaliland are facing the challenge of clanism, as I write, due to dispute caused by the upcoming elections.     Sahalsiidi @ 9/1/2009 7:27 PM EST  Maroodiga takarta saaran ma arke tan kaluu arkaa. Somaliland haddii ay is qabqabasho ku jirto doorashada awgeed wax xun maaha ee waa process. Southka ayaa ka daran oo xataa intaa aan xataa barkeed aan gaarin. Good luck Somaliland and I am sure you will solve your disputes, in a civilized way asap.     ali mustafa @ 9/1/2009 6:30 PM EST  Sigma-soma!!that the Xikmada of the day"boorka aan iska jafno oodhibka ina gaareyna,aan wax qaadano EEBENA aan udukano!!!!aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahua hua...thanks men!!that was good&mature!!     sigma-soma @ 9/1/2009 5:16 PM EST  Saba and stick There are countries not recognized by any country but it's people and Somaliland can do the same. The point is, peace comes before the recognition and sure that is available. We rolled a dice with all sides the winning number. Things may get thougher sometimes, but we will shake the dust out and get alone at end pray the south will do that soon.     ali mustafa @ 9/1/2009 5:15 PM EST  Ali gagale iyo mysomali,Like most somali chaps,you are very confused about realty of life&its colors!!you dont understand the definations between whats real&emotioms,neither can you understand the deference between day&night?i certainly dont expect you reason with me, because you dont know yourselves if  you are singing or chanting!!but i sure do know your medicine"wax fiican waxba kumalihidiin"let me warn you about Isaaq clan,they are fighters&they can fight like hell,but with good reasons&goals!!they can play stupid&persive,but they are not afraid as you think,we all know what they did to the lion of Africa who bitted the arm that fed him.where is the "legacy!!believe me,they are easiest human to live with&a good neighbour with a thik skin that tolerets alots,they are the most willing clan to live&share with of all somali tribes put togethet,but they dont take"QUUDHSI"soo be carefull when open your mouths&before starting spitting that dirty poison oo ah wixii soomaali kala kexeeyey,dib dambena umaleen maayo,iney isku imanayaan.aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahua     ali mustafa @ 9/1/2009 4:41 PM EST  Thanks mr.Markharti!!recognition,ayey wax weyn oo a matter of life&death kadhigeen,my somali brothers&sisters are over looking the most important case here&the sorce of peace,respect,good life&prosperity wich is very easy to begin with"war itix geli deriskaa ayaan ahay ee,war ceelka udaaya ha cabo ileen biyaha dhameys maayo,anaguna waanu kadaba cabi,war adna hawasakheen markaad cabtid ee ixtiraam dadka kutixgeliyey ee kuhormariyey,intaas aa soomaali laga la-yahay,markaasey marba dhooqo galgalanayaan,oo ey kadoorteen in xabashi,iyo keenyaan,iyo ugandees iyo rwanda oonu waxba wadaagin,in aan uyeerano oo dhano warnookaalaya oo natuma oo na silciya oo marba meel noo buriya,thats it!!There no greater recognition than you respecting me&tolerate me when i go wrong,soo that i can learn to respect you in return&in that process we will have whats called prosperity&bash bash iyo barwaaqo,but we chose the other way around!!aaaaaahua huaaaa     markhaati @ 9/1/2009 2:37 PM EST  Aduunyadoo idil way na aqoonsantahay haddunu nahay reer koonfur, bal maxaanse ku haysanaa aqoonsigaas?Somaliland wey xasiloontee bal horta teena aan daryeelno. ali mustafa:"Somaliland is recognised by its people " The most beautiful statement I have ever read on this form . southerner: Markhaati     ali mustafa @ 9/1/2009 2:11 PM EST  Somaliland is recognised by its people wich is more important than any thing else!!!who do you really want you recognise you? i mean as a Somalians?Does is it really matter whether a southerner,westerner,blackerner or whiterner to recognise you or not?what did "this recognitions" helped us for last 50years or so?you are all sick b*stards&you all deserve hell in your daily live!!aaaaahua huaaaaaa     mysomalia @ 9/1/2009 12:35 PM EST  War midkan Hawd labaxay waa xanuunsanyahay ee ilaahey u barya in uu caafimaad siiyo oo xitaa dadkii soomaaliyeed ee ku rafaadsanaa Dhenan ayuu ka dhigtay wax lays ku caayo. War dadku waa dad soomaaliyeed waxa eyna ka midyihiin umadda soomaliyeed ee adigu hadii uu qabiil ku indha tiray ha u maleyn in dadka oo dhan sidaada oo kale ey yihiin. Dadkan reer Isaaq xanuunka haayo ilaahey baa ka bixin kara oo waxa wanaag la'ah inta Muqdisho xumaanta ku jirta oo waxa ey umaleeyaan in sidaas ey madaxbanaani ku helayaan. Walaahi aqoonsi inta uu cirka idiin jiro ayeey idiin jirtaa ee candhuuftiina dib ulaqa ee umadda soomaaliyeed wax la qeybsada. Aligaa Si fiican ayaad walaal ugu jawaabtay midkan Hawd labaxay waa hadii dhaggo waxmaqla uu leeyahay laakiin waxba ha ku daalin waa cudur reer Isaaq oo dhan uu qabbo. Iska daa markii ey konfur hagaagto iyagaa jilbaha ku soo fariisandoonee.     aligaagaale @ 9/1/2009 11:25 AM EST  Hawd You can succeed to secede on the basis of Isaqland but not British Somaliland; even then, I doubt Garhajis and Togdheer will accept secessionism for Garhajis are unionists and Togdheer trades with the rest of Somalia. Either way, good lack with your secession but make sure you do not create more problems for your people doing it. I want add that Somalia is not the product of British Somaliland, as you claim, but existed thousands of years.   Peace     Hawd @ 9/1/2009 11:04 AM EST  Aligaa, Even though I respect your views and beliefs again I do not think it will materialise or has any chance of succeeding in reunion. Initially, Somalia was created by Somaliland, and then when we realised it was not succeeding into a viable country we then destroyed it. And I have to tell this, Somaliland will ultimately succeed in its recognition and no matter how long we will persevere the obstacles and ultimately get it. As for Sanaag you mention in your posting, about 70% of it is occupied by Isaaq including the regional capital, Erigavo, and all its surroundings. We have seen off now 19 years without recognition, and can wait for it 100 more years, it is in our blood and we are determined to succeed in it.     aligaagaale @ 9/1/2009 10:37 AM EST  Hawd Emotions aside, Somaliland can get international recognition only when rest of Somalia recognizes it first.  Somalia to recognize Somaliland as a state, there must be a referendum through out Somaliland (Awdal, Waqoyi Galbeed, Togdheer, Sool and Sanaag) in which every citizen who lives in these five states must vote. One reality is that only the Isaq Clan advocates for the idea of Secessionism on the basis of British Somaliland; therefore, only the citizens of Waqoyi galbeed and Togdheer, probably majority of them, will vote for secession since Isaq Clan occupies these two states.  The Citizens of Sool, Sanaag and Awdal will never accept it because they are not Isaq, will not accept to be dominated by Isaq and never leave Somalia because of Isaq. Other reality is that secessionism is not the cure for the problem of clanism that exists in Somalia and is the source of Somaliland secessionism.  Clanism is more difficult to solve at the regional level than at the national level; which means if it secedes, Somaliland will face clan predicament more difficult to address than that of the national level.  Why waste all these efforts if secessionism is not the solution? The solution is simple; all people of Somalia must collectively focus their efforts to end the clan quandary at the national level.  At least it is the interest of the future generations of Somalis since they have more things in common than they have differences and is the only way forward for Somalia.   ISAQ PEOPLE NEED TO SINCERELY CONSIDER THIS     Hawd @ 9/1/2009 10:31 AM EST  Simbe, Haka yaabin marna, maaha dadkeygii waxna isuma nihin Cagdheer, Faqash waxaanu isku nahay dab iyo baarool!     simbe @ 9/1/2009 9:07 AM EST  Hawd Miyaanan adba dadkaagii ahayn nacas yahow. Nin qabill indha tirey dhibadanaa!!!!!!!!     Hawd @ 9/1/2009 8:03 AM EST  (continued) Listen stick the pimp, get some money to your people suffering in Danon from your escorting taking! You need to sort out your arse before you can point a finger at someone else's. Look at article below this one about the suffering of your people in Denan, your home time.     Hawd @ 9/1/2009 7:50 AM EST  Stick the pimp, Listen inferior wanker, Somaliland will mind itself and get recognised sooner or later. I know you are looking for some more customers with your shankaroon woman advertisement, that is good haggling of you as pimp. If ready anyway, I will hire her 5 more nights $200. To the rest of posters, Somaliland will certainly get to the bottom of the well to reap the gold it has been digging in for long time, and whether one likes or not we will get recognised, no doubt. We have been without recognition for odd twenty year, but can anybody tells who is better than us today in Somalia? We are getting better everyday and ultimately will get the long awaited recognition     pragmatism @ 8/31/2009 11:23 PM EST  Somaliland fought a short civil war in 1994, and they are in danger of doing the same again, so the author should not be complacent. Somaliland has an interest in fanning the flames of conflict in Southern Somalia, the worse Mogadishu is, the better Hargeisa looks. The worst nightmare for Hargeisa is a stable Somalia.     aligaagaale @ 8/31/2009 9:08 PM EST  It must be clear to every one that Somali Democratic Republic is the recognized Somali State.  The regime has been ousted in 1991 by the tribalist opposition groups, USC, SNM, SPM and SSDF, without providing alternative, but the state exists. Any administration established during the last 18 years has no legitimacy, including Somaliland.       xinfiniin @ 8/31/2009 7:27 PM EST  It will wise for the author to focus his attention on the coming elections in marfishland which will be rigged in favour of Jajuus Riyaale.     shanta @ 8/31/2009 7:08 PM EST  Paranoia! Is the author running away from his shadow? Who from the South has ever written any antagonising paper condemning the self rule of one family Republic? 20 years and no recognition, while the dysfunctional South retains the never ending spot light.       Stickorcarrot @ 8/31/2009 3:45 PM EST  I was reluctant to say any thing about Shankaroonland this time around. But HOL gave me no choice by making the article page "Calaacal page" for secession militia. This must be the talk of the MARFISH. "...the inevitable recognition of Somaliland. " Where is he getting his feed? The time that day comes, is the day I am gonna have my own self state in undisclosed location and it is gonna be some parts of my house, I will be independent of my siblings and declare my self-rule as i am older and came one year ahead of my next younger brother. I think that is good incentive for him to fight against secession as that would bring the division of the family. Go to work Boy! While he is busy figuring out where to start, I think all i can say about this is: " you need to realize that s/he is simply confused, dazed, and desperate. " There is cure for that if one seeks.     adamjama @ 8/31/2009 3:05 PM EST  Today I was reading HOL published article "Somaliland Presidential Guardsman Made “Death Threats” Against Lawmakers" and as soon as I was done with that, I saw Mr. Ismail's winning article. Do not blame the South buddy, just look at yourself in the mirror. "Ninkii qeyrki loo xiirayow, soo qoyso adiguna" Former NSS threatening former SNM. Somalia is one nation, indivisible, and that is not being against Hargeysa junta.....it is just being a nationalist. That is 900 years old mentality that is shared by all Somalis regardless of where they are including many Somalilanders who realized the name of the game.     xinfiniin @ 8/31/2009 1:51 PM EST  The so called Somaliland is integral part of Somalia. Mr. Hassan marqaan stop hallucinating..     markhaati @ 8/31/2009 1:28 PM EST  Laga bartaa  laga badshaa. It is the southerns who are consuming more khat than the rest of Horn of Africa combined. Their actions and behavior speaks for itself. The flames burning in the south are fueled by khat. Which one is the lesser devil: The killing machine/ moorayaan who are high on khat or the peaceful chewer who is listening to his qaraami NB: I am not reer woqooyi     fiqicigaal @ 8/31/2009 1:12 PM EST  Calm down Misio Ismail and stop blaming the wrong party. I reckon you wanted to talk about Riyale and how it is important for Hargeisa land to come to their senses and put aside their differences but instead you chose to pick the south and blame them for undermining your cause. Oh no! not not now, you have lost your pickings. Perhaps the best thing you guys must do is to advocate for dialogue and understanding  within to safe what little trust the majority of Somalilanders have in your leaders. The last thing Somaliland wants is civil war and if you people do not pull up your socks and work hard, iam afraid you are heading into stormy seas. My advice is, stop the blame game and leave it for the south they are good at it though youn guys are also expert on that field.     ibn-somal @ 8/31/2009 12:19 PM EST  Oh, and this article is a classic example of turning the attention to the other in a time of crisis.     ibn-somal @ 8/31/2009 12:18 PM EST  inevitable recognition.kkkkkkkkkkk. maybe in 5oo years time.     djibsomali @ 8/31/2009 12:14 PM EST  How can any individual with a ounce of common sense let alone countries in this world take seriously a whole administration that is on khat ecstasy every day. The whole north western administration called mirqaan-land in my lexicon is a joke. How would anyone ask: A population which has lost common sense tried to registered its people and have come numbers which include Allah knows what but to me and friends has to include khat leaves. And when proven that multitude frauds has occurred by the same people who were responsible call them interpeace, interwar, government and other responsible. Any normal and sane person would have said lets go back to the drawing board and fix this fiasco. But mirqaan-land have went further and made it from a practical joke to a blatant ridicule by going: Let is legalise our 700 000 inhabitant and the other 700 000 khat leaves to make 1.4 millions. How does mirqan-land is different from crasy south land? At least in south of Somalia people are nassaab and do not even dream to plot slaughtering unrelated travellers because they could fight a  certain sub clan. Nb: readers have to refer previous article about an unsomali, unislamic act that happen in mirqaanland that any nassaab Somali would not even think about     markhaati @ 8/31/2009 11:30 AM EST   Mr. Ismail, Waxaan dumino mooyee waxaan dhisno manaqaan haddaanu nahay reer koonfur.

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