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maxaaigagalay @ 9/22/2017 6:52 PM EST  Abdi Mashkur, my son, Do you know your father? I mean your real biological father?   If you do not stop talking impolitely to me, I will officially request a dna test to establish your are most likely my son.     amina_samajecel @ 9/16/2017 2:08 PM EST  I am desolated about our government fiasco in handling the case of our brother Qalbidhagax. There is no justification for the conduct of our government. We are Somalis regardless of our birth place, our citizenship is based on ethnicity and it should remain as such. What is happening to us? We supported the ANC and other African fellows who were fighting for their freedom and now some of us say that we don't care about our brothers and sisters in Ogadenia. Shame on our government and shame on those supporting them. My appeal to our MPs and Senators is protect the Somali people and demand for the return of Qalbidhagax otherwise, the next step will be the rendition of millions of other citizens. We are aware that we are not as strong as we used to be, however we should remember that Qalbidhagax was a member of our SNA, the lions of Africa, and we cannot build a strong SNA if we accept to be stooges of the enemy. When in 2007 we united to free Somalia we succeeded though Sheikh Sharif and the Islamic courts let us down. If our government cannot protect its citizens it is the responsibility of our Parliament and all of us to be the voice of our voiceless people. No one should support a politician who sells the people that he/she swore to protect.     stickorcarrot @ 9/15/2017 9:07 PM EST  Shakur, I don't get your coded message here but you obviously are a man with a mission. Just show some decency and stop propagating debunked and the lies of Qalbi case being like Robow case. This can't be both a rendition and surrender.     momo519 @ 9/15/2017 4:43 AM EST   This writer has failed as the current "government". Serving Ethiopia seems to be more important than serving Somalia.     Topclan @ 9/14/2017 7:17 PM EST  Abdimashkur I am sorry to say this, but it seems you write like someone who is paid to defend the government. You keep insulting us by claiming our arguments are emotional while implying yours isn't. It easy to who is emotional arguments or making irrational points. I challenge you and not just you but the whole government to defend the handover of Qalbi Dhagax either morally or legally. No one has so far, nor could they. Stop going on over irrelevant things and tackle the subject legally and morally.     Topclan @ 9/14/2017 7:16 PM EST  Abdimashkur I am sorry to say this, but it seems you write like someone who is paid to defend the government. You keep insulting us by claiming our arguments are emotional while implying yours isn't. It easy to who is emotional arguments or making irrational points. I challenge you and not just you but the whole government to defend the handover of Qalbi Dhagax either morally or legally. No one has so far, nor could they. Stop going on over irrelevant things and tackle the subject legally and morally.     Topclan @ 9/14/2017 7:00 PM EST  Stick Apparently, holding a foreign passport disqualifies you from being a Somali citizen. Is anyone going to the president and PM, or shall I? Even someone who was not born in Somali can be a  Somali as long as they are ethnically Somali. Neither the government nor anyone else can that constitutional right. Qalbi Dhagax didn't even have to Somali and it would still be wrong legally and morally. The fact that he is a  Somali makes it much bigger because it threatens Somali unity.     Topclan @ 9/14/2017 6:42 PM EST  FiqiJin I believe our identity has been key to our survival. Division between Somalis because of war is bad enough but a formal separation to change our identity is the deathknel to existence. For example, if the Somali galbeed is facing a  massacre from Ethiopian forces, do we just watch and fold our arms and say it's not our fight because they're not really Somalis. Also, if the the NFD was under attack from Kenyan government or other Kenyan ethnicities, or Djibouti was under attack from Eritrea or Somaliland was under attack from Yemen, do we just and do nothing because they're not "real" Somalis? There's a clear example happening right now in Ethiopia where many Somali have been massacred. Now who is going stand up for those people? What can Iley do on his own? And can Somaliland do on its own? Somaliland has taken brave step but will it get support from other Somalis. So far, I haven't heard from the Somali  government say anything about this massacre. I know they have been pretty occupied by the Qalbi Dhagax case, but they don't want to compound that failure by mishandling this one as well. The Council of ministers had its weekly meeting, but their press release did not mention anything about this massacre. There's a huge question marks hanging over the Farmaajo government in its dealings with the Ethiopian regime. This is another test and let's hope it  does much better than the Qalbi Dhagax case. This is a good opportunity for the government to show it has a grip. Brave Somaliland is leading the way. The ball is in Farmaajo government's court. Or they going to claim Somalilanders are not Somalis?     secular @ 9/14/2017 6:19 PM EST  Mashkur, At the beginning of this rendition saga, I did caution everyone to wait the detailed news at the proverbial Cakaara Hamlet. I did ventilate the possibility of another " Roobow Situation", in other words defection/negotiation/surrender. We did spend sometime in dusty Cakaara and the news that came was/is very late, poor in details and ambiguous or misleading at best. Allow me to sin and utter what our federal leaders cannot say : " We could not say Maya, No, Niet, Nada to Powerful Ethiopia". We should swallow our pride and acknowledge the fact that episodes (weji gabax) like this Qalbi thing will surface again, perhaps in a different format , but nonetheless as a result of a temporary weakness. My hope is to see a nation in a position to deal with other nations as an equal and not as a vassal non-nation subservient to a more powerful neighbor.       secular @ 9/14/2017 5:15 PM EST  Folks, My point is "prosecute Qalbi Dhagax to the extent of the Somali law, if he committed any punishable crime inside Somalia or broke any official treaty between Somalia and Ethiopia ,thus harming the security and political interest of this beleaguered nation". Period. No rendition is justifiable under any circumstance. Period. Stick, Are you of the opinion the Fiqi joined the Pragmatic Madoobe Party and removed from his Shidad Dictionary the word "Wayane, The Enemy"? I remember a "mini clash" I had with him when I suggested that "ONLF is obsolete and better deal and break bread with Ina Iley, rather than spill more Somali blood in Jigjiga". He showered on me everything in his encyclopedia collection, books and shelves included! As for "Say Wallahi", Xoolaha ayaa Kawkab qabtaa markay dabayl roob oo dhaxan leh wadata (forgive me if I miss this one, xoolo ma raacin in mudda ahe)!     Abdi mashkuur @ 9/14/2017 1:39 PM EST  Stickie, Secular, TopClan Much as I respect your opinions based on your clear conscience there is a similitude with three small men riding on a tiny raft caught up in a giant tsumani of popular emotions and the real mental faculties are on a hand-break. Let me also thank you of your honesty and your insistence of what you think is a patriotic duty against family fervor. The suggesting of what I would say to Qalbi-dhagax Children is an emotional blackmail from Topclan to force feed me an opinion which a thought long and hard when coming to the conclusion to stick to the known devil of the government. Toppie please do not cut your nose to spite your face there is no-one more patriotic and freedom loving than Farmajo and Kheyre, and I suggest you look back on the suggesting that they may somehow be part of a human trade of soft underhand extradition to foreign entities. Gentlemen, I put to you this, when in reality we are non-entity that survived thus far unexpectedly under the circumstances, and that similarly is not out of the woods yet, to undertake a support for a freedom movement while publicly when there is no chance that our action could only harm us. What if: this government has a some compelling undisclosed reasons to have given the nod when they had no authority, after all Ethiopia is everywhere and can get anyone at will? What if the very man 'Qalbi' had somehow given up the ghost and came willingly to go home, when all the original dream seem to unacheivable, and Somalis he wanted to rely on seem to preoccupied with their own family feuds. What if all this a cover act to check out the other side of the fence and to report sometime in the future as a man with a mission. I may have actually guys overestimated you too much when I know fully well that it is almost impossible for out ethnic group to escape the influence of clan, families and a elderly ladies who get their news updates on the hour these days, unlike in the past where they had to wait months and they could also be lied to. What if, the man sacrificed himself for the rest of us seeing a planned decoy to finish us off and he heroically agreed to be savior for One-man or Somalia scenario? You know when a real freedom fighter takes arms, he must be ready for every eventuality. Put your thinking hats on and let me hear your nodding agreement.     stickorcarrot @ 9/14/2017 11:12 AM EST  Secular, Qalbidhagax kama doonan magan galyo Soomaaliya ee waa Soomaali. Wuxuu ku dhashay Soomaaliya (not Ogaden) gudaheeda. ONLF wuu u dagaalamay sida Soomaali badan oo Ogaden iyo qolyo kalaba ugu dagaalameen. Ninkii Fiqi ahaa wuu dalacay oo wuxuu xubin ka yahay Parlamaanka Jubbooyinka lol Ninkii sidii ugu xoogga badnaa Ethiopia run u sheegisteeda wax war ah lagama hayo markuu maaamus siyaasadeed galay. Taas oo tusaale inoogu filan awooda Ethiopiya ku leedahay Soomaaliya dhexdeeda. Buulomareer markay reer Jubbaland soo maraan waxaan waydiiyaa: "Go'a aan ahayne Fiqi ma waad garan" Malaha accentigayga ayaa yara guracan oo dadku waxy ii fiiriyaan inaan ahay sidii nin kowkabsan (translate this for the Say-walaahi group.)     stickorcarrot @ 9/14/2017 10:57 AM EST  Shakur, Qalbidhagax case is as morally reprehensible as you will ever see. Government will never offer a legitimate justification for his rendition. Worst Somali criminal should face justice in Somalia. He is Somali. Just because he supported ONLF and is Ogaden won't excuse this tragic error. Top, I agree with you on this 100%. This is much bigger than anything we have seen before. If Somali government can do this and then make false excuse for its action just to appease Ethiopia, then, none is safe. Ethiopia has a surveillance apparatus inside in Somalia. Even Farmajo & Kheire are not  immune to this. https://theintercept.com/2017/09/13/nsa-ethiopia-surveillance-human-rights/     FiqiJin @ 9/14/2017 8:14 AM EST  Tops, Just wanted to say: I couldn't agree with you more on all points of what you just posted. You and I had many fierce sparrings in the past over what and who resulted in the "failed state" of Somalia! We accused each other of serving our own clans' interest in criticising the other (clan)! As I said many times before, Qarran iyo Qabiil cannot coexist as both masters of our destiny, as one divides us into small units while the other unites all as one! We don't have to deny the clan identity, as God made us of clans, but we must put such identity in its confined private places! I always say: if one wants to get in touch with his clan self, one should go to the countryside, milk she-camels or goats or cows, dress like Geeljire or cowboy or a Sheppard and rough it out for a week there! Then, go back to the familiar comfort of your big city or town and put on your city, state and national identity!   I am not from Farmajo's D clan, though some would still not believe, you saw my post a few days ago calling for his impeachment over Qalbi Dhagax fiasco! As you said it, "rule of law" is the foundation of a nation or, for that matter, any system of governing! Our national leaders must embody and defend our Somali (nation) identity which transcends any one geographical borders in the Horn of Africa! Being a Somali cannot be reduced on which side of Somalia border one lives--as Somalia is the only country which has borders with its own Somali ethnic group! We are the "jews" of black Africa ( in puny about 20 million max of us), and we cannot afford to hand over one of us to the very enemy he or she fights for his freedom! Shame on us for that! Shame on us for that!     Topclan @ 9/13/2017 6:40 PM EST  Some people think it's that I am so opposed to this government's decision to handover Qalbi Dhagax and response to the the public's uproar as this  government is dominated by my clan. A lot of people, including my family, are unhappy about my criticism of the government. I respond to them by saying it's not about whose in government but whether or not they match my principles. I only followed Farmaajo because I  believed he had similar principles to my own. Frankly,  this is not about an individual or a clan;it's whether actions are in best interests of the country.     Topclan @ 9/13/2017 6:19 PM EST  Or legally.     Topclan @ 9/13/2017 6:18 PM EST  Abdimashkur There is nothing wrong with being pragmatic. As I said, I am as pragmatic as anyone but this goes beyond any rationale How is it unrealistic to expect the government to respect international and domestic laws and show human compassion? Out of all those 60 plus ministers in the cabinet, only one of them has a moral conscious and to principles. I salute you, madame Maryan Qaasim. Mr Hosh, the constitution minister, I thought had some integrity when he condemned the federal parliament's rejection of the Somali Supreme Court'service judgement. Hosh's interjection was not formal yet it still angered MPs. It turns,  rather unsurprisingly, that his not such principled man. He jumped right on Qalbi Dhagax case without any hesitation. In the last few months, the two worse decisions have been taken since I have been following Somali politics: The federal parliament's rejection of the Somali Supreme Court's judgement and the handover of Qalbi Dhagax. These two decision the greatest threat to restoring Somali state and future progress Impunity is the name of the game and the single biggest reason for lack of progress in Somalia. You cannot have nation state without its foundations: respecting the rule of law. The two biggest institutions in the land have deliberately and without regret breached main articles in the constitution. President Farmaajo and PM Khaire said no one is  above the and return rule of law in Somalia. That's clearlynot the case. The Qalbi Dhagax case is not just about laws; It's about Somaliness and what it means to be Somali. No one can defend the handover of Qalbi Dhagax either morally     Abdi mashkuur @ 9/13/2017 12:40 PM EST  Stikie, Secular, Topclan What's wrong with pragmatism? what's wrong with being realistic and prioritising actions? I have a lot to say about this subject but because of people like Maxaaigagalay, we have difficulties discussing topics rationally. I will show you clearly my line of reasoning in due course, so bear with me. Nether a has live decision failed when a cool head is used rather than allowing your emotions to run riot in your head. Lear how to walk before you can run, where are we now to make any meaningful decision in life, and are we united now in spite of theis nationalistic bubble?     Topclan @ 9/12/2017 7:38 PM EST  FiqiJin Somalia has never, that I am aware, extradited it's citizens to another country except Ethiopia. The only Somalis that have handed over to Ethiopia are Ogadens and the ONLF. The government is simply acting like the warlords and regional administration that have become dependent on Ethiopia. Giving Ethiopia what it wants while you get nothing really worth is absolutely stupid. The government has yet to tell us the benefits of handing over Qalbi Dhagax to Ethiopia We know the benefit to Ethiopia but some people naively believe that Ethiopia will miracles become our if we just do  what  it wants     Topclan @ 9/12/2017 7:18 PM EST  Secular The grievance does indeed belong to us all. That's we are outraged by the Qalbi Dhagax case. This is why position on the government has been reversed completely. I would look away and accept almost any other decisions this government makes but this is completely counter to everything I believe in The irony is that I was a massive supporter of this government, and I have little interest in the ONLF. Yet here I am today opposed to the government's decision and blatant lies, while I have sympathy with the ONLF. I  am as pragmatic as any and a believer of real politik. But the Qalbi Dhagax case defies all logic. I have a lot of questions I want the government to answer like, why did ignore both international and domestic laws and why did they feel they needed to come with lies to justify their decision? I mean, the government can justify handover Qalbi Dhagax to another country but they don't do with terrorists Xasan Dahir Aweys and Muqtar Roobboow. How does that make sense? I don't want to keep going on about it but one of big reason is thone two are not Ogaden. Both the clans of Aweys and Roobboow insisted that they should not be handed over and should be treated well. Both these two terrorists are living in Mogadishu despite the death of countless Somalis at their hands. That's Somali justice for you. Look, I put aside all these questions and and grudgingly accept this decision if the government can answer one question: what is the benefits of this to the national interest? When you make a decision like, you cannot make it lightly. The way the government has doubled down on it hints that has a really justifiable reason. If it was just a really bad decision, then continuing with is stupid. So Farmaajo, you gave Ethiopia ONLF leader.What did you get in return? If the answer isn't something massive like Ethiopia stopping its interference in Somali affairs and withdrawing its forces, you got scr-we-d. The deafening silence by the president indicates that the decision is his. We do not Farmaajo to be this quiet, especially when his government faces a fatal crisis. It's as if the real Farmaajo has been abducted. This the time for great leadership but Farmaajo has disappeared.     FiqiJin @ 9/12/2017 7:51 AM EST  Maxaaigagaly, Kkkkkkkkk!! Riya IIDOOR waa tanaa! Waad iska xaartay! Ha iga qoslin! Haaaa, hahaaa! Huuuuuuuuuuuu!     maxaaigagalay @ 9/12/2017 3:54 AM EST  INTII AAN OGEYN HA OGAATO: FARMAAJO ADEERKII AFWEYNE AYAAN DORRAAD KA SAARNAY GANJEELLADA. MANA YEELEYNO INUU FARMAAJO NA HOGGAAMIYO. MAXAAYEELAY ITOOBIYA AYUU NAF KA DOONAY. FAWDADAN BUU KU DHAMEYSANAA 3 SANO IYO BARKA U HARSAN. WELIBA WAA MARKA UU UGU NASIIB BADAN YAHAY. HADDII KALE, WUXUU CARARAYAA KABO LA’AAN AH. WADDADII HABAAR WAALI IYO NAAR-KA-BOOD IYO UTANGA WAA LA YAQAAN. DAWLAD WAA LOO BAAHAN YAHAY. WAASE LOO SII KALE BAAHI BADAN YAHAY. SAMAALE WAXAYBA UGU BADISAA DAWLAD LA’AANTA. DAAROODNA INTUU NABAD KUGU YEELO, DAGAAL KUGU MA YEELO. DAAROODOW, AMA GADAASHEYDA KU FEYL OO AAN KUU TALIYO ADIGOO EDEB LEH. AMA ABAARAHAAGA IIMAANSO. MA MAQASHAY HEESTII UU QAADAY CARABKII LAHAA: DUMAASHI SALKA DULKA DIG = DUMAASHI SALKA DHULKA DHIG. MA DHAMMEYSTIRIMAAYO HEESTA EE ADIGU DHAMMEYSTIRO. AMA HA BIQLEYSEE IIMAANSO HANFIDAADA IYO KALLUUNKAAGA.. HUNNU HUNNU HADAL MAAHA …. WARKU WAA CAD YAHAY. AMA KU SOO DHOWOW, AMA KU SII DHEEROW. DALKA WAXAAN LAGUUGU DHIIBEYN MAXAAYEELAY WAXAAD HIDDO IYO DHAQAN U YEELATEEN SOO HOGGAAMINTA CADAWGA, LA SHAQEYNTA CADAWGA, U BASAASIDDA CADAWGA: BAL EEG CUMAR XAAJI MASALE, CABDULLAAHI YUUSUF, CABDIWELI GAAS, AXMED MADOOBE, CUMAR CABDIRASHIID, FARMAAJO OO HADDA ITOOBIYA U DHIIBAY CABDIKARIIM QALBI DHAGAX, IWM. SIDEE LAGUUGU AAMINI KARAA TALADA DALKA, HADDII AAD DALKA DAMBIIL KU QAADANEYSID OO AAD NAADINEYSID: KAM-YASIIR-KAN-YA-GUUL, SIDII ADIGA OO JOOGA SAYLADDA XOOLAHA AMABA KU-DHACDA. DAAROODOW, DAL AAD CADAW KA IIBISAAN IDIIN MA HAYNO. DHAWRKII JEER EE LAGUU QALDAMAY AYAABA GEF WEYN AHEYD. SAA MABA LIHID MEHERAD AAN AHEYN IN LA IIBIYO DALKA, BADDA, MADAXBANNAANIDA IYO DIINTA SHACABKEENNA. (MA XUSUUSATAA AYAAN XIRSI MAGAN?) SOOMAALIYA IIB MAAHA! SAMAALAA DIIDAY.     FiqiJin @ 9/11/2017 11:21 PM EST  Topclan, Qalbi Dhagax wasn't simply an Ogaden from the occupied Somali land by Ethiopia, he also was and still is a Somalia citizen by Somalia constitution. He is a veteran colonel of XDS! There are so many laws broken here: 1. As a Somali citizen, he was not afforded the due process of a Somalia citizen. 2. There is no extradition treaty between Ethiopia and Somalia. Article 35 & 36 of the Federal Republic of Somalia constitution clearly prohibits extradition of a Somali to other countries without a ratified treaty with a concerned country by the federal parliament! For all practical purposes, the man is dead (may he RIP). The issue is, what will the Somalia parliament do now to prevent such carnal sin ( Somalis handing over a fellow Somali to a merciless enemy)! Also, the Galmudug officials refused to hand him over to Ethiopia ( go Galmudug!); so much for Galmudug & Ethiopia alleged agreement! On the 26th of August, he was transferred to Mogadishu, and within 2 days, he was handed over to Ethiopia. Did you know, many Senators and parliamentarians went to villa Somalia and pleaded with the president to stop the extradition to no avail. Did you know, Qalbi Dhagax was living in Somalia for the last 3 years with his family, and went to Villa Somalia under Hassan Sheikh several times--most certainly met with the former president. So much for the lies that Hassan Sheikh government had treaty agreement with Ethiopia! So much was going right for this government, which I like, until it gave up a Somali citizen to his political enemy! Had this man murdered someone in Jigjiga and was wanted for it, I would not have given a rat's as* if he was extradited to answer for murder!     secular @ 9/11/2017 10:25 PM EST  .... cont Another thing that bothers me is "The Diaspora ONLF". With friends like them Qalbi doesn't need enemies! They should have given time for the matter to settle, one way or another, instead of claiming that he was an active head of military operations for the ONLF, instead of what he was supposed to be: an ethnic Somali who sought refuge in his homeland. As for the "wackos" in the so called Federal Parliament: The majority of them aim  to score points against those who won yesterday's (S)election and disguise their real motivations as a nationalistic or human right's issue!     secular @ 9/11/2017 9:55 PM EST  Top, Many aspects of this monkey business bother me. Let's not equate stupidity/lack of common sense with willful and calculated sinister plan to harm an innocent individual. However, the cover up is more serious than the rendition itself and I am sure that the Prima Donnas of this Greek Tragedy (Somali Tragedy) would have , in hindsight, handled this  obscene fiasco in a different way. You mentioned elders of a certain clan meeting and showing a lawful grievance to the government. I beg to strongly differ : the grievance belongs to all of us, not because Mr Qalbi is a haloed saint (no clue about the guy's true background), but because those who initiated, arrested, lost him to his "kidnappers" and accused him of possible wrong doing are equally in the wrong side of history as the Mogadishu Gang that can't shoot straight ..     Topclan @ 9/11/2017 6:02 PM EST  Secular The defenders of this government said it did not what was obvious to many people. The government took a  long time to come up with an answer that convince people. The answer we got was that they would doubledown on their decision to handover Qalbi Dhagax against both international and domestic laws  as well as morality. They can't defend their decision legally or morally so the only available way  out was ton make a false lies and deceptive insinuation and to blame the previous government. What you're doing now is to question what kind of guy Qalbi Dhagax was to try to justify his abduction. You bring against a guy who  was was handed over to Ethiopia without not only facing trial but never even faced these allegations before he was unlawfully renditioned. You see, this was the plan the whole time Facts and evidence go out of the windo. All the government and its defenders have is false allegations against a guy who cannot defend himself against them. If someone ubducted you and then they you were this evil guy who was involved with criminal activities, do we accept their word without any evidence?     Topclan @ 9/11/2017 5:32 PM EST  Burhan You don't know what you are talking about. The Ogaden is not responsible for any damage caused to the Somali state. They are not Siyad  Barre, USC, SNM, SSDF or all the government's which have come since but failed to bring the Somali people together. The Ogaden and the ONLF have have for our failures. They have, sadly, become a scapegoat for our ills. The fact is no other Somali clan faces harsher treatment from the and inot recent from other Somalis. In your delusion, you've mixed up Ethiopia with the Ogaden. Ethiopia,so plan all along was to create divisions and ultimately conquer all Somalis. I am very worried because this reminds me of the Arabsite treat each other, especially the Palestinians. Somaliness has always been strong even after bloody  conflicts. I think the reason for this is because of Somali xeer/laws. It is clear to me that there has been a transgression against the Ogaden by warlords and some clan administrations. But never before by the  Somali government until the  Qalbi Dhagax care. The Ogaden MPs are absolutely correct to demand answers and not accept this violation against Somalis  but their clan in particular. No Somali clan should handover a member of another clan or fight against with a foreign entity against other  Somalis. A crime  has been against Somali state  and SomaliNess. A crime has been committed against the Ogaden community and there's an urgent to redress     secular @ 9/11/2017 5:02 PM EST  Qalbi Dhagax's chosen line of activism is a tough and dangerous one and he was conscious of the risks involved. He most probably run afoul of the local policy regarding the militancy of ONLF in both sides of the border e might have fallen to the anti-Ethiopian narratives/promises of Shabab and possibly got protection form some elements of the evi*l sect. To make long story short, that speedy transaction and unwarranted delivery of Stone Heart has been egregiously mishandled and thoughtlessly executed. Ethiopia should repackage him and send him back to the senders, whoever they are!       secular @ 9/11/2017 4:38 PM EST  Stick, Malaaig ha ku salaanto. I miss the Fiqi Cigaal's input. I hope he is well and busy with some other issues that kept him away from "his forum", HOL!     stickorcarrot @ 9/11/2017 10:09 AM EST  Secular, Salaan dabadeed, Waa run "Dhereg" haday wadkiisa noqoto, sun buu ka dhergay baa la oran doonaa. Qalbidhagax inuu dambiile yahay iyo in kale, sharcigaa cadayn lahaa. Dowladnimo waxay ahayd in marka qofka dambi looga shakiyo sharciga dowladda la mariyo. Maaha in dowlad aan warkeeda ka wary hayno loo gudbiyo. Qalbidhagax Soomaaliya ayuu ku dhashay, ciidanka xoogga Soomaaliyeed buu ka mid ahaa, wuu dhaawacmay laba jeer, walaalkii wuu ku dhintay sabab Ethiopia loogu dhiibaa ma jirto. Xitaa hadduu Shabaab xidhiidh la lahaa waa arin Soomaalia u taala. Qof Shebaab xiriir la lahaa oo Soomaaliya waajikiisa marisay wax ka hadlaya ama muran gelinaya anigu ma arag. WThe reason i think is partially here...not all... http://www.wardheernews.com/the-handover-of-qalbidhagax-and-ethiopias-de-somalinization-mission/     stickorcarrot @ 9/11/2017 9:59 AM EST  Top, I agree there is no way to rationalize this.The government was silent for a weak and they presented nothing but lies. Now, they are trying to stop the parliament to even have a hearing on this.     stickorcarrot @ 9/11/2017 9:56 AM EST  Shakur, So, we have been killing each other for generations and chose clan over nation so it acceptable our government to use one of us as "sacrificial lamb" to safe the rest of us? How is that not a subjective moral reasoning? Would you say that to Qalbidhagax family? This is not 5 minute emotional outburst but a crime committed in the name of government. You can't advocate for justice and rule of law while ignoring the right of the citizens. It seems your loyalty lies with the government leaders not with Somalia and its citizens. There is NOTHING Qalbidhagax could have done it that would warrant for his rendition to Ethiopia. If he was a criminal he is a Somali criminal and he should have faced our justice.     secular @ 9/10/2017 9:34 PM EST  Folks, Marka hore Qalbi Dhagax "xitaa haddii uu dhereg u dhinto" dambigaas waxaa leh ciddii dhiibtay, dambi hadduu galayna in dalka lagu maxkamadeeyo bay ahayd. Intaa ka sokow, hadduu jiray heshiis hore loola galay Ethiopia oo qarsoodi ah waxaan dambi ka marrayn kuwii saxiixay, kuwii dirsaday iyo kuwa aan "lafa gur ka sameyn" inta aan la cuskan. Marxaladda dalku marayo hadda nooma saamaxayso inaan jabhad la dagaallanta dal kale ugu oggolaanno dhaqdhaqaaq ciidan amaba siyaasadeed oo colaad na dhex digikara cid naga taag roon. Qalbi Dhagax inuu degaan uu u dhashay xuquuq u raadiyo waa u bannaantahay, inuu dhib Soomali kale u soo jiidana waa ku dambi. Gobollada Dhexe waan ognahay inay Shabaab joogto, hadduu gacan iyo xiriir la sameystay oo caddeyn lagu hayana sabab loo difaaco iima muuqato. Dawladda iibisay ayaa laga rabaa inay ama qirato xadgudub ama qiil macquul ah la timaaddo.     Topclan @ 9/10/2017 6:18 PM EST  Abdimashkur What is wrong with you? Have you being Ethiopianized already? I tell you correct yourself immediately or from now I will count you as one of those working for Ethiopian There were people like during the struggle for independence who we should give in because there's hope. The good is that Somalis stUck together and won. I am not sure now     Topclan @ 9/10/2017 6:01 PM EST  Stick I hear you, bro. I agree with you 100%. I, too, think this is a transgression against our Ogaden brothers. It'snot the first time and it will probably not be the last either. It doesn't happen to any other clan.What I keep hearing is that the Ogaden are fair game when it comes to this kind of thing. Are Ogadens not Somali people? What this horribleepisode reveals is how we have lost our sense of Somaliness and emptyness of unity. Whoever made this decision opened a Pandora'sterling box. There is no way to rationalise it and we are still awaiting answers but it doesn't seem forthcomingfrom our government.     Abdi mashkuur @ 9/8/2017 2:52 PM EST  Mr Carrot There is no stick these days, the eyes of the world is watching, and basically what this people want to achieve is for domestic consumption. What will probably do is to take a good film trailer whilst secretly negotiating him ( carrot and stick), and let him free to spread the MR ILEY'S GOSPEL. One thing you must understand is, our domestic/foreign/government/existence policy is not in our hands but in the very group that is calling us in one finger, for the time being the reaction has to Yes sir/Yaa Faandim/Afendi/Samcan wa daacan/ so that we can reach our desired goals. The other thing is all the misplaced reaction, false loyalty, false Waa wareey Soomaaliyeey and so forth, HOW DID WE GET HERE? didn't we mince each other? haven't we chosen clan over unity? Mr stickie I would say the way to paradise is paved with thorns, and the way to hell is adorned with diamonds, just let's stop the failed emotions when we need to successfully reach a fruitful outcome, and like others we need to follow those we appointed to lead us. Five minute emotional reaction takes you in circles, and ask yourself how many other Qalbi-Jileec have we lost through our stupidity in most cruel way?     stickorcarrot @ 9/8/2017 10:33 AM EST  *swayed     stickorcarrot @ 9/8/2017 10:30 AM EST  Most Somalis it seems, are not rational people. Our clan loyalty almost always has sways how we see even seemingly obvious circumstance. These two principle the writer stated; the right of the Somali citizen to live in his country without fear & the government’s right to protect its citizens are indeed very important. And we can’t defend one (governments) while diminishing the other (citizens.’) This brings me the Clan issue. Qalbi-Dhagah is Ogaden. He was born inside Somali “proper” and was a decorated member of the SNA.  But we were told he fought with ONLF against Ethiopia. Ethiopia is the only nation in the universe that considers ONLF a terrorist organization. Most of the Somali people support ONLF’s goal. And many non-Ogaden Somalis support ONLF either financially or fight with them.   So, suppose this guy was “Marehan” or “Murursade” and he fought with ONLF against Ethiopia. Do you think the Somali government would have handed him to Ethiopia? That is the issue that needs to be addressed. The fact that a decorated SNA was handed to Ethiopia because the underlying justification for this decision is, he is Ogaden, therefore can be an Ethiopian. A government does not hand its “criminals” to other governments. And another issue that is painfully clear is how even our Somali ways of “clan loyalty” diminishes when Ethiopia is involved. Have you heard any Ogaden politician in Somalia –including Madobe, raised Qalbi’s case?  Today, you can’t be a Somali politician and speak against Ethiopia at the same time. We are a nation in name only. Those of us in Diaspora, the least we can do is to speak for the victims of Ethiopia and its ground keepers inside Somalia. Making justification for this colossal failure in the name of “government’s right” is insult to Qalbi-Dhagah and mostly likely, his soon to be orphan children.       Abdi mashkuur @ 9/8/2017 9:28 AM EST  Liban Nothing to be gained from this case it is done and dusted, Qalbi-dhagax perhaps needs bit of heart-softening. Now Ethiopians Gulag is his home, so let's move forward with country building and no more bush war-beatings, all the original bushes are clear now.

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