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    wiifgarow @ 1/16/2016 10:56 AM EST
 Stick & Fiqi

I know you two lionise your late Iidoor-killer Mr Barre, so lets see how he treated Mr Goth's clan. He gave them one minister Mr Rabille Goth. Health I think it was. As for you Dhulos you had the Security under Dafle and Burale Transport (cant remember the third). Hbr Jeclo had VP, Information, Farming and Trade(Silanyo). FACTs.. I like them
    wiifgarow @ 1/16/2016 10:51 AM EST
 Stick

I am juts pointing out facts to my Dir cousing Mr Goth. Just to epaet, every Somali govt, from Aden Adde one to culsow one today, gave just one minsiter to whole of his Samaroon clan. They always gave at least two to your Dhulbahante caln and to your neighbours of Habr Jeclo. I happen to know Samaroon and these two clans quite well. Maxad Case alone is more popolous than the tow of you put together. I am not exaggerating. Yet all the get is one minister. Just one. UNO. The Southerners her is so desperately trying to ingratiate himself with clearly have not much respect for his kith and kin.  
    secular @ 1/13/2016 9:36 PM EST
 Stick,
Dhegtaa ii taagan waxa ka soo baxa kulammada aan dhammadka lahayn ee " Madaxweynasha tirada badan".
Tan Fiqcigaal, raggiisa nin ka faqa uma ekayne wuxuu ka baramoosay Fadhi-ku-dirirkii oo wuxuu maareeyaa arrimo run ah!
    Stickorcarrot @ 1/13/2016 3:32 PM EST
 Secular,

Way u egtahay in Fiqicigaal ka baramoosay inuu la kaftamo
"commoners." Madax iyo hogaamiyayaal (fawdoba ha ku yimaadeene)
ayuu la shaah cabbaa.

Haddee markuu Buulo-Mareer iigu yimaado dhabarka ayaan u
jeedinayaa.

Soomaaliya iyo Afrika toona madaxweynahan oo kale ka sugi
mayside, ma laga yaabaa inaad Uruguay u guurto?
    secular @ 1/12/2016 11:04 AM EST
 Stick,
Fiqicigaal is no more the gregarious and witty fellow we once shared thoughts with!
Forgive him: he breaks bread with Presidents and ministers!
In any case, I hope he has something to do with the recent political fortunes/statesmanship of Madobe

My kind of President, federal or otherwise?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GX6a2WEA1Q
    rasimaal @ 1/12/2016 10:04 AM EST
 Who started using the word president wrongly ?the answer is SNM and SSDF because they wanted to unseat siyad barre so their own can replace him it did not happen cause USC did not serve their purpose well ,so the thugs had to come up with temporary solution to satisfy and justify themselves hence creating clan "presidents".
    Nuunow @ 1/12/2016 6:22 AM EST
 "A divided nation is an easy prey to every scavenger. And the country is now literally divided into tribal fiefdoms calling themselves states. People who are homogeneous by race, language, skin color, and culture including religion are divided by walls erected by self-serving politicians whose main objective is to ingratiate themselves to their foreign masters as long as they can have the hollow title of “President” which can easily be replaced with the word “stooge” in the current Somali political context."

That says it all!
    secular @ 1/12/2016 3:43 AM EST
 Folks,
For what I care , they can call themselves Presidents, Sultans or even Kings as far as they agree on something!
    Stickorcarrot @ 1/10/2016 11:02 PM EST
 Fiqicigaal waan ku salaamay.
    Stickorcarrot @ 1/10/2016 10:57 PM EST
 Poison pill....
    Stickorcarrot @ 1/10/2016 10:56 PM EST
 @Wiif,

It seems your tribal project came to a dead-end. That is the only
way i can explain about your desperation.

You of course understand, with Khaatumo & Maakhir not buying
this poison bill your family is selling, your only hope was
with Samaroon. Now that Samaroons are not on board either, your
distraught is visible.

Samaroons are most educated Somali race there is. The time of
Waan kaa Qoodho badanahay will be over in Somalia. Samaroons will
rule in Hargaisa, not because of Qoodho tiri but because of their
education. Get used to  it. And stop crying over spilled milk.
    Stickorcarrot @ 1/10/2016 10:47 PM EST
 Goth,

That is brilliant idea. How about turning this "clan" stupidity
upside down and appointing a Somali leader for Hiiraan state.

By that I mean, inviting all Somalis regardless of tribe and geography
to come together and appoint a good leader for the state and call
him the governor, the representative or something that shows
the stupidity of other "koofiyad baclayaasha"?

That would be very good indeed and if that is the case, Hiiraan
will be a place Somali race will remember as long as they live.

Can we do that? Let's turn this clan thing upside down...
    FiqiJin @ 1/10/2016 8:41 PM EST
 Wiif,

You are still in the past. In the new Somalia, every region or group would have control over their lives and they should also be represented nationally in a fair and equitable way. The days of dictatorship and this or that clan will dominate others are over, except in the E-Doori mirqaan minds.
    wiifgarow @ 1/10/2016 10:50 AM EST
 Lest say Somaliland implodes and gets sucked back into the Somalia morass. Which Somalialnd clans do you think will lose most pwoer and inflence? Not Iidoors for they can negotiate a deal for themselves. They will use their economic, numerica and political heft to get themselves a deal with wallweyns. Somalialnd Darood clans will get large crumbs from their Southern Darood brethren's table. Samroon will lose big time! Y=In fact they will be extremely lucky to get even one minsiter this time. They may also lose Seylac to Djibouti(why not? You do know Wallaweyn and Isse are deep business and political allies dont you?) making Samaroon landlocked and powerless. Hey I am warming to the idea of bringing down the whoel Somaliland project. Just to see who wins and who loses from the implosion. Somalia ha noolaato! Lets all join together.
    wiifgarow @ 1/10/2016 10:24 AM EST
 And instead of crying rivers for Mother Somalia(How things change eh Mr Goth?), I , as a Somalilander am outraged how the single Samaroon Minsiter in this CIA puppet govt has been humiliated by the Wallweyns last week. He made a clear statement about Iran Somalia relations one day and was told to climb down the very next day. He should resign immediately dont you think? And there will be none..
    wiifgarow @ 1/10/2016 10:21 AM EST
 One minister. Every Somalia govt. That is all you got. Dhulos got more. Everytime. So did Habr Jeclo, HY, Habr awal and even Warsangeli. Forget about the Southern clans of Darood and Hawiye. I would like to point this out to you and I will, as often as possible.
    wiifgarow @ 1/10/2016 9:32 AM EST
 Hiiraan may hav produced presidents anmd minsitesr galore but Mr Goth's Samaroon certainly did not. Not that they did not deserve to as on of the most educated clans and on of the largst of the Somali race as a whol. Awdal's population is about five times that of Hiiraan. Yet may I remind Mr Goth that his clan was never given more than on minister(and that not in the 'Eating' ministeries) since Somalilnd handed over its country to the south on a plate in 1960. One minister. Warsangeli and Dhulbhanto, tqwo Somalialnd darrod clans always had more. Fact. Mr Goth might like to reflect on that
    FiqiJin @ 1/10/2016 7:06 AM EST
 Fiqicigaal1,

Greetings! Hope Jubbaland is progressing in all ways. There is no doubt there are a lot of things wrong with the current federal setup. For instance, regional heads have to be governors--and not presidents. I am sure, in due time, all these kinks will be straightened out!
    fiqicigaal1 @ 1/10/2016 4:12 AM EST
 Indeed it makes sense to me and if the people of Hiiraan decide to change this meaningless name "president" to a more realistic title it will surely encourage others to follow suit.  

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