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wiifgarow @ 3/27/2015 12:03 PM EST  Tops Than you for the reflection and the clamness with which you responded top my proviocative but heartfelt post. There are fewer vices I dislike more in a man than ingratitude. The whitey westy have treated our people with more dignity and generosity than ever afforded each other. they deserve a litte thank you.     maxaaigagalay @ 3/24/2015 4:47 AM EST  FiqiJin, The people of Mogadishu whipped you on the butt. You suffered so much that you became very bitter towards them.  Bur who cares about the wailing of an traitorous spy.  Go complain to your masters - the Amharas.  Wixii aad ku keento Xabashi loo basaaso, waxba ha iga siin, jaajigiiyow.  Awoowayaashaa ayaa taas waxba ku  qaadi  waayay. Raggu ha wada hadleen ee iska aamus.       topclan @ 3/23/2015 4:45 PM EST  Wiif Granted but which humans have never needed to find safe havens in foreign fields? Humans have always migrated to foreign territories but it's no reason to believe we can't help ourselves. The Europeans have had bigger and bloodier wars than Somalis and other Africans. It's just theirs happened long time ago and they have learned from their mistakes. So we might have to go through similar things to the Europeans before we can have a united and prosperous nation. The road is not always smooth and we have to just hang on. It is not about the problems you have faced but the future you can create and we can still create a great future for Somalia.     topclan @ 3/23/2015 4:29 PM EST  My friend, loyalty is not a bad thing, even to clan. Wiif is loyal to his clan project and there is nothing wrong with that because he doesn't h4te other clans. You can love and be loyal to someone or something but it doesn't mean you h4te others. Why are you changing the subject and always keep coming back to your delusional clanh4te mentality? You keep coming back to same thing again and again, which just how stuck your brain is. What we are talking about is who is going to solve Somalia's problems, foreigners or Somalis themselves. You seem to think foreigners and keep coming back to 1991 to support your claim. If you have more faith in foreigners than your own people, then I pity you. I don't follow blindly, I continually point out where this government is failing but neither do I single out a clan for the failure of Somalia. If you speak the truth and the only thing you value is peace and some state functioning, why don't you support recognition of Somaliland state? I am able to say the truth and if it was based on successful statehood, Somaliland should be recognised instead of Somalia. If you agree that Somaliland has been more successful at governance than the rest of Somalia, you must support their statehood otherwise you are nothing but a diehard tribalist. If one only speaks in clan talk but pretends to be not, then he will speak half truths about some things and keep silently about others.     FiqiJin @ 3/22/2015 9:21 PM EST  maxaaigagalay, Ask yourself: Why is it that Somalis run Hargeisa and Garowe police stations, while Mogadishu is run by foreigners? To me, the answer is that Somalis in Mogadishu simply cannot run anything without the help of these foreigners, period!     FiqiJin @ 3/22/2015 8:55 PM EST  maxaaigagalay, " Mogadishu police station are run by non-commissioned  policewomen from Nigeria." Kkkk. It is even worse than that. When the so-called president of Somalia goes to the bathroom in villa Somalia, there is an Ugandan soldier stationed outside--to ensure his safety. But, whose faults are all of these? It would have been completely a different story had the dummies who faked revolution and ability to rule had actually ruled the one indispensable Somali city, Mogadishu, after they succeeded to overthrow the sitting government. Topclan exhibits the same imbecile brain which made Mogadishu a giant Sh*thole!!!       FiqiJin @ 3/22/2015 8:40 PM EST  I believe Somalis are the cause of their own problems since 1991. No need to blame others. Tops, Out of stupid clan loyalty, only you will defend the people who thoroughly destroyed Mogadishu. Go ahead, blame everyone else, except the real dummies who could not even manage to rule one city! Kkkkkk!     wiifgarow @ 3/22/2015 11:51 AM EST  Tops 'white man'(I am ctaully offended by the casual racism) already rescued you. I bet you are a refugge in some 'white man's' country and that your or your family have been given shelter, housed, de-loused, educated, vaccinated, protected and given the freedom to now churn out this kind of ungrateful drivel. Ingratitude is one of the most despicable of all human vices boyo. so cut down on the rcaism, and very occassionally, say 'Thank you whitey'     topclan @ 3/22/2015 11:41 AM EST  FiqiJin Somalis existed before the white men came to our shore and we shall continue to exist long after they leave. You believe Somalis can't exist without the white man and that is why you support this babysitting non-sense. Our redemption is not in the hands of foreigners, it is in our hands. We must stop believing that the white man is somehow going to rescue us from ourselves.     wiifgarow @ 3/22/2015 11:07 AM EST  Yeah Tops it was the vaunauatu cyclone, allied with evil isaq secessionists supported by queen Vicky's Ghost that is the root problem of Somalia. Not the Wallweysn at all. Innocent to a man, warlord and donkey.     maxaaigagalay @ 3/22/2015 9:41 AM EST  Topclan sometimes hits the nail on the head -- like when he makes such such deep thoughtful statements as: " The West's plan is to divide Somalia into clan states and then hand it over to Ethiopia and Kenya to rule." Just think about the federal system, which will divide Somalia into six or seven  feuding tribal fiefdoms, with Ethiopia playing the referee. Just consider that Somali is not allowed to rebuild Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliyeed.  Somalia is not allowed to have even a police force.  Mogadishu police station are run by non-commissioned  policewomen from Nigeria.  Our Somali police officers -- lieutenants, captains, Colonels, act as guards, translators and tea cookers for these foreign female sergeants. This shows Topclan can identify the diamonds in the putrid Somali pile of senseless quarrels. Of course, Kay should have been kicked out of the country long ago.  But the present corrupt leadership can't even think of it. KAY FARA BADAN BUU KA HAYAA DHAMMAANTOOD.     maxaaigagalay @ 3/22/2015 9:35 AM EST  Topclan sometimes hits the nail on the head -- like when he makes such such deep thoughtful statements as: " The West's plan is to divide Somalia into clan states and then hand it over to Ethiopia and Kenya to rule." Just think about the federal system, which will divide Somalia into six or seven  feuding tribal fiefdoms, with Ethiopia playing the referee. Just consider that Somali is not allowed to rebuild Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliyeed.  Somalia is not allowed to have even a police force.  Mogadishu police station are run by non-commissioned  policewomen from Nigeria.  Our Somali police officers -- lieutenants, captains, Colonels, act as guards, translators and tea cookers for these foreign female sergeants. This shows Topclan can identify the diamonds in the putrid Somali pile of senseless quarrels. Of course, Kay should have been kicked out of the country long ago.  But the present corrupt leadership can't even think of it. KAY FARA BADAN BUU KA HAYAA DHAMMAANTOOD.     FiqiJin @ 3/21/2015 7:23 PM EST  Top, So, according to you, it is the UN or the Whiteman which is responsible for Somali leaders acting and behaving like babies since 1991. Kkkkkkkkk!     topclan @ 3/21/2015 8:36 AM EST  "No one foreign wants to babysit Somali idiot leaders beyond 2016. The UN is saying that Somali leaders had enough time to resolve their problems by 2016" The UN may act like it knows what is in the best interest of Somalia but in truth, only Somalis know what is in their best interest. When will the UN stop babysitting Somali leaders? When they stop acting like babies. When will Somali leaders stop acting like babies? When the UN stops treating them like babies. The foolish black man and his white master is a game that has been going on since colonial times. The white man has only taught the black man how they can divide and kill each other even more while the white man takes resource. Abdalla Ali "You're pretending that Somalia is a normal sovereign country. Somalia is a FAILED STATE, because Somalis are FAILED PEOPLE." No, Somalia isn't a normal sovereign country and Somalia is a failed state but still we don't have to accept bullsh*t from foreigners and imperial wanna be like Kay. We are not a failed people, we are a failed state. "Put fake nationalism a side, there's no "country" here." My nation is the Somali people and it's not fake. Yes, there is a country with internationally defined territory and permanent population.     wiifgarow @ 3/20/2015 10:01 AM EST  And lets just squash this fantasia about 'general elections' taking place in 2016. It is out there with flying saucers and virgin houris. Neither the government nor AMISON nor the UN can safely (let alone fairly or competently) organise an election in Bondhere let alone Bulo Hawo and Buhotle. It is a ludicrous idea. Mr Kay must know this. so what is his game? Who is he trying to convince and who is he trying to fool?     wiifgarow @ 3/20/2015 9:23 AM EST  This is what happens when you do not show the courage leadership often requires. President Culusow should've declared him persona non grata when he accused the whole of the Somalil legislature as being corrupt. the accusation is true of course but it is not for him to say it. Culsow failed to show couarge under pressure. He is now being treated like so much a petualnt school boy as coems naturally to upper class Brits like Mr Kay when dealing with Africans     FiqiJin @ 3/20/2015 1:55 AM EST  Tanadeh Tanaad, Usually, I would agree with you, but the truth is that it is the "Somali people" which has subjugated themselves to foreigners. Personally, I look at this very differently. The sooner the Somali people take ownership of their own Somali business, the sooner the UN and others will depart. No one foreign wants to babysit Somali idiot leaders beyond 2016. The UN is saying that Somali leaders had enough time to resolve their problems by 2016, especially when Al-Shabab, the only armed group which is the enemy of the Somali state getting on its feet as a modern country, will be history sometime this year. If Somalis are not ready in almost 2 years, then that means the rescuing world will be stuck with Somalia with leaders of the dumbass category!       maxaaigagalay @ 3/20/2015 12:44 AM EST  Mr. Kay needs to be kicked out of the country.  But who can kick him him out? Fara badan ayuu ka hayaa madaxda hadda joogta.     momo519 @ 3/19/2015 10:29 PM EST   The Somali parliament wants to extend their term. The Speaker wants to extend his term. The president needs term extension. Mr. Kay says NO NO NO. Well, the easiest way to extend your term in Somalia is to do nothing! Just like Abdiqasim and Sheikh Sharif, run the clock and time will expire. They will be forced to work overtime for at least one more year! Anyone wants to bet against incumbent African president seeking term extension?     sacomaale @ 3/19/2015 9:04 PM EST  Waa warkii u wanaagsanaa ee aan baryahaan maqlo. Qoslaaye waa kasoo dhamaanaysaa.     Wiil Isxaaq @ 3/19/2015 7:25 PM EST  They have no choice because N Kay gives them white peoples taxes as salaries to Buglisholand.     Zami @ 3/19/2015 6:18 PM EST  topclan, My position is well known. Reconciliation before anything. Everything we are seeing today in Somalia is the West (USA & UK) forming a Somalia to serve they're interests. They have contributed alot to political instability in the country. Oil contracts are all theirs. Thats all they cared about. Hassan Sheikh has made sure to sign them exclusively to these countries. No one is questioning where SOMA Oil & Gas came from? This company came into being a few months after Hassan Sheikh visited the UK in 2012. It's corruption. We know nothing about the deals that have been signed, meaning they are not in Somalias' interests or else we would have transparency. The foreign troops are serving a sinister agenda, Jubbaland is proof of that. A massive conspiracy is being waged against Somalia. There are foreign & domestic elements working to destroy us, main ones being the USA, UK, Ethiopia, Kenya, IMF, World Bank & The Somali Central Bank. Somalis' are unbreakable, these fools should know that.     topclan @ 3/19/2015 5:45 PM EST  "While the international community pays the salaries of Somali politicians & the foreign troops in the country there is no sovereignty or independence you speak of." If that is what you really believe then why do you criticise powerless Somali leaders? If that is the case, we should end all support for this fake government and demand the withdrawal of AMISOM and UN. What do you want as a Somali citizen? You aught to have a say. The SFG is claiming to represent you and the IC claiming to assist you and paying lots of tax payers money on Somalia. So how does Somalia escape this dependence on donor nations? Somali government is no longer a transitional one, it can make deals with anybody and get help to rebuild its economy and military. Somali government is not as powerless as you think or as it once was. SFG is becoming less and less dependent on donor nations, and foreign troops serve the interest of outsiders not Somalia, they have become an obstacle to rebuilding Somali security force.     Zami @ 3/19/2015 4:33 PM EST  topclan, "While most Somalis are against the term extension for Somali leaders after their term expires, this is a blatant disregard of Somalia's sovereignty and political independence." LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! You gave me a good laugh. While the international community pays the salaries of Somali politicians & the foreign troops in the country there is no sovereignty or independence you speak of. As long as this is the case the UN runs the show. We should not kid ourselves, Somalia is dependant on the international community, without it al-Shabaab would still control most of the country. Quite frankly Somalia has been let down mainly by Hassan Sheikh & his associates who have orchestrated the overthrow of two PM's. Useless MP's are also part of the problem. Some MP's do work for a better Somalia but a majority are constantly impeaching PM's for Hassan Sheikh. They have lost legitimacy & no longer represent the Somali people. The federal states should vote they're own MP's into parliament.     topclan @ 3/19/2015 4:03 PM EST  This guy is not Tarzan. First, Tarzan would not support Mr Kay flagrant disregard for Somalia's sovereignty and political independence and secondly, his Facebook page is empty. Here's the real Facebook page of Tarzan, former mayor of Mogadishu: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mohamud-Axmed-Nur-Tarzan-Mayor-of-Mogadishu/218666378205923     topclan @ 3/19/2015 3:51 PM EST  "There can be no term extension for Somali leaders after their term expires - and the international community won't accept that." While most Somalis are against the term extension for Somali leaders after their term expires, this is a blatant disregard of Somalia's sovereignty and political independence. Will Somali leaders and politicians slap down this bungling buffoon? Somalis have put themselves here by kowtowing to like of Mr Kay. He thinks he is the boss because Somali leaders use him to stab each other in the back. Just because I agree with his point on term extension doesn't mean he has any right to dictate to Somalis on what they can or can't do. Mubarik Yusuf Tanadeh Tanaad's point, which you missed completely, is that this is bigger than political point scoring or clan squabbling, it being dictated to by foreigners. Somali politicians must make sure their squabble doesn't allow foreigner to dictate to them. This guy has been sent to destroy Somalia, I would keep my distance from him if was a Somali politician. The West's plan is to divide the Somalia into clan states and then hand it over to Ethiopia and Kenya to rule.     abdi mashkuur @ 3/19/2015 3:24 PM EST  NO NO NO Mr Kay you got it wrong, the president is the FATHER of the nation and if he feels the time is not right he has a right to ask people by means of the parliament. Guddoomiye Tarsan or as I call in somali Mr Darsin is just jumbing on the bandwagon. the is no political gain here, just a speculation of a possible extension. Isn't it right to examine the country's needs and the background of the candidates, or even the president to remain a last guarantor of sovereingty? who is going to stop if Shabab former member wants to stand as a president, should the president not deny him and stay instead. We have time to discuss but this president is a suitable and trustworthy.     rasimaal @ 3/19/2015 1:18 PM EST  i am always against any term extension for the current administration,but i think Mr Kay is overstepping his authority .     Zami @ 3/19/2015 12:00 PM EST  Mohamud Ahmed Nur Tarsan, I hope you run for president because Hassan Sheikh has been a failure. No term extension for this shameful president & equally shameful parliament. Not all MP's are bad, but those who overthrew two PM's for Hassan Sheikh are a disgrace. We seriously need a clean slate in Somalia. Viceroy Nic Kay is right, no term extension because the current legislative & executive branches of government have failed the Somali people. Hassan Sheikh should be in prison.     ina_muse @ 3/19/2015 10:31 AM EST  Hmmmm "We can surely survive without any outside help or orders!"     abdi mashkuur @ 3/19/2015 10:16 AM EST  Is this article futuristic in the sense that comments are made before Article is published and thus reflects people's views, what is going on. If the president requests extension, a due consideration has to be given as and when he presents his reasons. the rule of the parliament is the final. HOL please stop the joke, where is this Camden? just give us an example of where we know like Wallawayn.

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