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@ 1/28/2015 5:48 PM EST  You must login first..     @ 2/25/2014 4:17 PM EST  You must login first..     topclan @ 2/17/2014 10:44 AM EST    Pis   Are you speaking about yourself? There are so many of those in Somalia in all clans that it is hard to know who you are talikng about. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. Is that the level of your debate, bad mouthing those who don't agree with you? Somalis are dividing in two groups, one is fighting for the unity of Somalia by trying to bring Somalis back together, the other aided by our neighbours and IC is fighting to divide Somalis further by imposing clan federalism.     topclan @ 2/17/2014 10:39 AM EST  Ahmed Said The points raised in this article are so deep and go to the heart of why federalism is not only suitable for Somalia but has been imposed by external forces who want to divide and rule Somalia. Never mind these regional states the FGS cannot act without external forces interfering and steering it the direction they want. This at the heart of the argument and what we are trying to correct. Seriously,  did Somalis come together and decided that they want federalism? Or are you saying Puntland, Somaliland, (actually sees itself as an independent country) and Jubbaland decided they want federalism, if that is the case then that isn't a national debate it is a decision by a few individual or sub-clan supported by external forces: "The process for the formation of federal member states follows certain pattern: (1) an area is assigned to a certain sub clan; (2) an individual or small team is selected and supported politically, militarily, and financially by IGAD, AU, UN, and EU; (3) The individual or small team enjoy the full power to hold conferences and invite their kinfolks; (4) IGAD, AU, EU, UN attend ceremonies for legitimacy; (5) national (Federal) Government is either bystander or accomplice.  Puntland, Khatumo, Jubbaland, and the new Conference in Baidoa share that pattern." No one is saying you can't have federalism in Somalia but there must be a national debate, national reconciliation and it must not be clan based and divide Somalia along clan lines making the FGS weak and easier for external forces to interfere with our affairs.I am sure people also want a system which is cost effective not beurecratic and corrptive one.     Nuunow @ 2/17/2014 3:26 AM EST  Ahmed Said, "Personally I believe federal system is way forward for Somalia's current situation, IF managed properly it can be good governing system in future." Boowe, I couldn't agree more. But the big question is: are we heading the right direction? As far as I'm concerned, no. If you try to read the article thoroughly and with open-mind, I'm sure you will get the essence of the story and why the points raised by Mr. Uluso is hitting the nail on the head.     Nuunow @ 2/17/2014 3:25 AM EST  Uluso, Well done! Those of you who are wearing cl'an gla'sses and can't see or think further than their no'se seem to miss the essence of the message. Stop ba'shing the writer or being ru'de. Focus on the message, not the author!     topclan @ 2/16/2014 3:22 PM EST   Are Somalis so stupid that we can't think of a system which stops clan domination, ensures power sharing and prevents external forces from interfering with our affairs? I haven't as yet heard a coherent argument why we can't have a decentralised unitary and neither have I heard one for federalism that unites the Somali people rather separate them further by creating clan fiefdoms, and protects the sovereignty, territorial integrity, political independence of Somalia. All we hear is federalism, federalism, federalism, but it is not a panacea and Somalis will misuse it like they have done everything else.     topclan @ 2/16/2014 3:21 PM EST   I never understood the concept of a land belonging to a clan, usually a land either belongs to the state(public), an individual or a consortium. Everything which is owned by the state must be shared fairly by the public so why should a region (clan) claim a land to the exclusion of other regions(clans)? The blessings of god belong to the whole nation not just the few. People in Somaliland seem to find it the most offensive when they are mentioned in the same breath as their Somali brethren. I mean, do we even have a chance against Ethiopia and Kenya? Ethiopia and Kenyan are welcome but they are up in arms about other Somalis.     topclan @ 2/16/2014 3:20 PM EST   You can't run for president in Puntland if you're not from that region as if Puntland isn't part of the Somalia. Somalis used to live and work where ever they wanted, Somalis have migrated across the world but now they can't even live and work freely in their own country.     topclan @ 2/16/2014 3:16 PM EST  We talk of unity but all we are doing is going the opposite direction.     topclan @ 2/16/2014 2:58 PM EST  I have given up any hope of my clan ever becoming a strong and independent nation. I know now that without other Somali clans we are nothing and will be ruled by Ethiopia and Kenya.     somalipeace10 @ 2/16/2014 5:08 AM EST  Everyone in Somalia belongs to a clan and it is not an argument to mention one's clan to criticize his arguments. Ulusow's clan affiliation is not relevant in this debate. Do you agree or disagree with the arguments provided or pointed raised? The author presented convincing argument that clan federalism is not working and the evidence on the ground supports that. For example, the is armed conflict between all the so-called clan enclaves from Somaliland to Jubba. If this madness is not stopped it will destroy Somalia. The author mentioned a very interesting fact that Ethiopia has separate agreement with a number of authorities in Somalia, sadly including the Federal Government. That is what our enemies want and many clan-blinded people support that.       somalipeace10 @ 2/16/2014 4:59 AM EST  I agree with the writer Somali people never agreed on Federal System of Government. We all know that Ethiopian and Kenyan representatives manipulated the Mbaghati conference attended exclusively by warlords and their cronies. There has been no national debate or decision about system of government Somali people want. Clan federalism cannot work in Somalia and will lead to more fighting and bloodshed.     siinay @ 2/16/2014 4:32 AM EST  Let every clan have their own state and their own President. Issaq have Somaliland, Majeerteen has their own, Hawiye and Raxanweyn should have their state and their own President. lets see who benefit when we become nation of competing clans, with so many presidents. lets see who benefit when Ethiopia and Kenya become our masters!!!!     stickorcarrot @ 2/16/2014 12:54 AM EST  Yes, Culusow is telling us family point of view. And so are you too. Those of you posted here and the Northern Somalia guys using the FB. It's all about family business as usual. But I think even though i know the messenger I must say i agree with the message. At least part of it. I don't see centralized Somalia coming back. But clan fiefdoms will for sure be worse than what we had in the past. And I don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. It seems even the government is arming the clan militia and maybe even Shebaab read this: http://hiiraan.com/news4/2014/Feb/53296/un_group_reveals_how_al_shabaab_gets_arms_meant_for_somalia_regime.aspx Yeah, and please, spare me it is a lie and witch hunt. everything done or said about this government for the last year and 1/2 is lie? Please....     me-myself-and I @ 2/15/2014 11:35 PM EST  Mr. Ulusow, few years back, you were Guddomiyaha Guddiga Siyaasada beesha Ceyr. I even remember vividly the day you took all the clan elders of your tribe (Ceyr)to Addis Ababa to offer a milatery base in Guraceel for which you have succeeded. Now you are playing a nationalist role. Were you wrong back then or you are wrong right now. Please and please keep quite for all somalis know who you are. The Federal system of somalia is here to stay whether you like it or not. The day you could have done something better for somalia has passed. It was when your clan Ceyr dominated south somalia. You could have changed something. But you chose to do nothing and now you are carrying a foul. Stop crying if you are a man.     Pis @ 2/15/2014 4:53 PM EST   There is no Somalis fighting or debating their current government system Federalism. But, there are few anarchists and violence profiteers who want to go back the clan dominance and city-state, which ceased to exist. This author is chasing a wild goose of Centralization! What a phony nationalism that he preaches and at the same time he never practices! Kkkkkkk     Pis @ 2/15/2014 4:48 PM EST  There is no Somalis fighting of debating their current government system Federalism. But, there are few anarchists and violence profiteers who want to go back the clan dominance mans city-state that ceased to exist. This author is chasing a wild goose of Centralization! What a phony nationalism he preaches and at the same time he never practices! Kkkkkkk

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