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wiifgarow @ 3/5/2015 11:08 AM EST  Tops?     wiifgarow @ 3/3/2015 10:33 AM EST  Topsd Ok so you dont need Somaliland economically. Unlike Konmbos we are not patriotic, spear-wielding kuffar killer Soomaaliyeey Tooseey warrior races. Socially all we can offer you is qaad. Why are you so hellbent in keeping us with you? I mean if we are a minus economically and every other way, why not let us go and wash your Muufo-stained hands off us once and for all? Me no unnerstan?     topclan @ 3/1/2015 12:54 PM EST  WiifGarow Don't you mean Mogadishu and Puntland? The SFG only connects revenue from Mogadishu. SFG budget for 2015 is 218,000,000 Million, and Puntalnd's budget is 60, 000,000 Million. Somaliland's budget for 2015 is 150,000,000 Million despite the minister claiming it is 180,000,000 Million.     wiifgarow @ 3/1/2015 10:30 AM EST  "without foreign.."     wiifgarow @ 3/1/2015 10:29 AM EST  Tops You mean you did not know Somalilanders generated more wealth Wallweynia? I thought everybody knew. Check any study you care about from 1982 World Bank study t6o the last one by World Bank and UNDP I think it was 2005. Google. Hargeias (or Woqoyi galbeed as they called it) generated more wealth than eight southern regions including Banadir put together. The current SL budget, with foreign aid is bigger than that of Somalia and Puntland put together. This is despite your clan inheriting ever copper wire owned by the Somali State and foreign aid cascading to Mogadshu like turuufo on steroids     topclan @ 2/28/2015 5:20 PM EST  Wiifgarow: "I have not a single serious study by anyone that does not confirm a simple economic reality: Somaliland generates more wealth per capita than Somalia and thsi was the case sionce the Union of 1960." Forward us these serious studies so we can evaluate what they mean and if there is any substance in it. What's behind this interesting result?     topclan @ 2/28/2015 4:54 PM EST  I meant the proliferation of clan militias.     topclan @ 2/28/2015 4:50 PM EST  Fiqijin The cause doesn't matter! What matters is what happened, is that what you are saying? I am sorry but I thought the important thing is to find out what happened, why it happened and what we can do to make sure it doesn't happen again. But all you care about is who is to blame. It was not all USC but a single component part of it. You blame USC despite the fact that almost all of them were against war and fought against the leader most responsible for the war. When the best military leader with the most militarily powerful Sub-clan refuse to accept the decision to nominate Ali Mahdi as president, any USC unity let alone national unity went out of the window. The rest of USC could not stop him, the rest of Somalia could not stop him and even the UN and the most powerful military in the world, the U.S. armed forces, couldn't stop him. You cannot blame HG and A for trying to grab power by force, they saw an opportunity and went for it. What are you asking Hassan Ethiopia to apologise  for exactly, the crimes committed by USC? Haven't all clans committed crimes? What is the point of your blame game? One could make the same argument that if Barre regime didn't become brutal and a clan hegemony none of these wouldn't have happened. And if a true national movement was created instead of these clan militias we would probably have a united and prosperous country. The failures of Barre regime and clan militias are lessons we have to learn from in order to not make the same mistakes again. The brutality and clan hegemony under Barre, the clan proliferation and the Somali civil war all happened, they are events which still define us.     wiifgarow @ 2/28/2015 10:59 AM EST  Ahmed Said Actually, and I am being seriosu for a change, secesion is economically beneficial to Somalilanders. I have not a single serious study by anyone that does not confirm a simple economic reality: Somaliland generates more wealth per capita than Somalia and thsi was the case sionce the Union of 1960. Quite remarkable in that way. Of course there are other areas like politically and socially where Union strengthens both parties. For example, fighting not only Al-Shabab but salafist ideology. Foreign policy weight. Defense. Therea re arguments to be had about such areas. Not economically though. About 5/6 times richer on their own.     wiifgarow @ 2/28/2015 10:27 AM EST  Ok Wallaweyn I have no time for any of your CIA-spawned 'governments' and 'presidents' they are as illigitimate as each other - but I must say to you as neighbourly observer that a man with no army, no airforce, no central bank, no institutions, no legitimacy, no experience and with the human material of wallweyn quality - culusow has done a pretty good job. He convinced his craetors of to recognise him as some sort of National govt(worst joke in 21st century so far - he does not a rule half of Bondhere); convinced the naive and sentimental Islamists in Turkey to bankroll him and even colelct rubbish for him from  MOg streets, he got Arab money bags raining in like desert storms and he even stayed few montsh each year in Mog! None of your previous Presidents have done that. So respect to Smiley the Puppet. He is a very smart puppet.     FiqiJin @ 2/27/2015 5:01 PM EST  Topclan, Your explanations as to why it happened do not matter. I don't care about USC disunity or this or that reason. It happened, and it happened by the hands of your USC and your clan ( generally speaking) and it happened in your Banaadir! Topclan, securing Mogadishu had nothing to do with other clans. You had all the power and the means to police your own people in your own area city. Hargeisa is a very big city, but SNM immediately took control of it and shot dead anyone who looted! Before we get to a national government by all clans, Mogadishu had to be secured by the rebel group ( substitute for clan) whose area of influence Mogadishu was. You, You!!       topclan @ 2/27/2015 3:54 PM EST  FiqiJin There was no unity within the USC except to overthrow Barre regime, which is not that surprising as it was made up of many sub-clans. The war between the USC was predominately between two leaders and their sub-clans who were vying for power. Who introduced to Somalia the idea of clan militia as a means to achieve clan objectives? Who started clan opposition to the government? What were the objectives of the clan militias except to overthrow the Barre regime? If you can't answer this simple question, then it's just a waste of time and energy. Separation, autonomous/self rule, power grab or national unity? We know it wasn't national unity that is for sure. There was nothing which united them except the overthrow of Barre but you can't build a nation only on overthrow. Hawiye militia couldn't agree to between themselves in 1991, how could the whole nation agree? Could Darood or Dir militia have agreed if they captured Mogadishu in 1991?   The evidence says it's unlike unless there is one dominant sub-clan. We are still struggling with power sharing. "Clan-based rebel groups took arms against Siad regime. " You don't find that a problem? How do you bring all the clan militias together to create one unified state? "Each rebel group was responsible to liberate its clan ancestral area." You make it sound as though there was some kind of coordination going on between the clans, each clan was simple trying to liberate its territory. And if there was some kind of combination going on, they should have sent a coalition militia made up of different clans. As Ahmed Said points out, there were people from different clans living in Mogadishu and it would be a mistake if they have had sent on clan militia. "SNM secured their area. SSDF also did. Your USC, however, did not secure Mogadishu." No, USC certainly did not secure Mogadishu. In fact, they went to war with each other. USC was made up of many sub-clans, you always forget to mention that. USC is a clan militia made of many sub-clans and two leaders and their sub-clans went to over who should be the president of Somalia. SNM and SSDF are sub-clans who outnumber and dominate other clans in their territories. This is about the power of sub-clans and how they dominate Somali society. Somali wars are predominately between sub-clans, either inter-clan or intra-clan rather than inter-clans. Habar Gidir were outnumbered in Mogadishu by both Abgaal and Murusade but they were powerful and had the wily General Aidid. Most of Hawiye supported the nomination of Ali Mahdi as president of Somalia but Habar Gidir and General Aidid rejected and went to war instead.     FiqiJin @ 2/27/2015 9:08 AM EST  Ahmed Said, The reason why I never bother with crimes committed in Mogadishu by mobs is that the reason which led to all that criminality was the failure to secure Mogadishu. I never said that Hawiye harmed this or that clan. What was harmed, by not securing Mogadishu, is everybody as a nation. That led to anarchy and no government at all--what I rightly call " Qarran Dumis."     FiqiJin @ 2/27/2015 9:02 AM EST  Ahmed Said, As you well know, people r*pe, loot and k*ll when there is no law and order. My point is that the failure to police Mogadishu, after the government was ejected, is the source of everything which went wrong with Somalia since 1991. I am sure you will agree with that.     FiqiJin @ 2/27/2015 7:47 AM EST  Judging by his lack of English grammar, if the author of this article has a Ph.D., then I am Shakespeare himself. Kkkkkkk~!!!!!!!!!!!!     FiqiJin @ 2/27/2015 7:21 AM EST   As for your points about some achievements he has had. I say think again, because the same thing would have happened if Sheikh Sharif was re-elected. Turkey came to us by Sheikh Sharif time, and their aid would have continued just the same. Al-Shabab was pushed out by the same African Union Forces. He has no success in bringing Somalis closer together. So, these achievements would have taken places, regardless of who the Somali President is. Then there are repots of his and his regime's corruption. Gebre still lives in Villa Somalia. Shame!     FiqiJin @ 2/27/2015 7:17 AM EST  Ahmed Said, Usually I am in agreement with your opinions. However, on this one, I respectfully disagree with you. We are Somalis, and we are people of clans. He is a president of people of clans. So, for him especially, because he hails from Hawiye, is in the only authoritative position to criticize and condemn His clan's direct responsibility for the failure to secure Mogadishu and with it the Somali State. Any other president of a different clan would come across as attacking his clan's rival.     FiqiJin @ 2/26/2015 11:51 PM EST  Topclan, I see you are still in denial. Your this latest attempt to conflate so many unrelated events is futile. Yes, the Germans (generally speaking) were culpable for Hitler and his Nazi regime. Most Germans participated in or cheered his regime! Even today's Germans will admit that fact and try to atone for it! That does not mean all the Germans then cheered or even helped the Nazi regime. Here are undeniable facts about Somalia: 1- Clan-based rebel groups took arms against Siad regime. 2- Each rebel group was responsible to liberate its clan ancestral area. 3- SNM (Isaaq)went to the Northwest to liberate Hargeisa, Buroa and other towns there. 4- USC (Hawiye) went to their area of central Somalia and Banaadir ( Mogadishu). 5- Other rebel groups also went to their area. SNM secured their area. SSDF also did. Your USC, however, did not secure Mogadishu. Because of your clan rebel group failure to reign in their fellow clan into law and order is my proof that you are incapable to govern Mogadishu or anything. There are 3 Somali major clans historically involved in governing: Darood, Hawiye and Isaaq. Your clan, in my opinion, is the most primitive. You proved me right on that on your failure to secure Xamar Caddeey and the 23 years of chaos centered in and around Mogadishu. Also, should we attack the whole Darood clan for the massacre committed against the people of Somaliland? You and I know that we cannot even blame Siad's own clan of Mareehan on that, let alone all Darood! Why do I say that? Because at the time of that massacre, many Darood subclans had their own rebel groups to bring his regime down. Even the Ogaden, a long time ally of Siad, were fighting his regime. Remember Ahmed Omar Jees (SPM). Your clan, however, stripped Mogadishu. Your USC participated in the looting. Let me put it this way: All Hawiye did not loot Mogadishu, but all the looters of Mogadishu were Hawiye! Proof me wrong!     topclan @ 2/26/2015 4:23 PM EST  FiqiJin   If your solution is to criticise certain clans, then you have no solution. It is much easier to criticise others than one's own self. "But anyone should attack a whole clan (generally speaking) if they were involved in Qarran Dumis. Unfortunately, others will take that as an attack of their clan" I didn't know a whole clan can be involved in something like that, perhaps a certain members of that clan but claiming that they're involved is ridiculous! Should we attack the German people for the crimes committed by Hitler and Nazis? Also, should we attack the whole Darood clan for the massacre committed against the people of Somaliland? You claims of Hawiye as qaran dumis are borne out of your believe that Hawiye are not capable of leading. You also stated your h4te for them, although you tried to justify that by saying it was because of qaran dumis.     FiqiJin @ 2/26/2015 12:00 AM EST  Topclan, Well done, bro! It looks like my intense drillls with you had done you good. My motto: Spare no one, even if he is your own brother, when it comes to the interest of the whole nation. Attacking people for clan basis is primitive. But anyone should attack a whole clan (generally speaking) if they were involved in Qarran Dumis. Unfortunately, others will take that as an attack of their clan. The truth has no clan. It is neither for nor against any clan or anyone. Truth is its own all! As for this president: I knew he was useless when he refused to testify  as a president against the misdeeds by his own clan in Mogadishu, which he witnessed year after year since 1991. He was there. His tactic, which he often repeats, is let us not look back . Let us look forward. That, my dear, is a sign of being either disingenuous or being gutless--either way unbefitting of a leader for a nation, which he is not. He would have been a perfect "Agaasime," not a president. A true leader tells the truth, especially to his own!     topclan @ 2/25/2015 2:08 PM EST  "Well on the first point, just imagine that his own government is itself still hu-nkered down in green zones, and overall security in the Capital city is still precarious." The SFG'S claims about security gains has to counter this point. The claims made by Yusur Abrar has been met by denial and claims she's lying but that doesn't make allegations go away. You can't simply deny the allegations, you have to show you are clean but I am afraid this government is just too corrupt. If you are clean you have to show it because we can't simply assume you are clean. "Furthermore, marauding squads of various labels that carry out political/clan assassinations still reign supreme everywhere and scare away developmental agencies, diplomats and any Diaspora repatriation efforts." Within the last year many Somali politician and leaders have died from assassination and mysterious deaths. Even the speaker of Djibouti parliament died after an illness. I think all these sudden deaths look very suspicious. The Somali president and Speaker of parliament have gone to Germany to have a health check up. I don't blame them, I would be very careful what I drink and eat. Ethiopia-Somalia relations since this president came to power: Gabre living in Villa Somalia, Allowing IGAD to control Somalia politically and militarily, The Addis Ababa agreement betweenSFG and IJA, Ethiopian forces joining AMISOM, recognition of Shariif Sakiin as "president" of SW3, filling ethiopian agents like Halane, Farah Topaz, Dhuhulow and Hamoud in important government post, and taking part of celebration of 40th anniversary of Tigrey militia. We must be angry, we must not be satisfied, we must demand better from our leaders because we deserve much better that this. Somalis know only two ways: Tribal criticism of leaders or to keep quiet and hope the problem is solved somehow. When someone makes a compelling argument which instead of a clannish criticism, we need to either present a counter argument or accept it and not trash it because of tribalism. If you think things will get better without complaining and demanding better, you are fooling yourself.     topclan @ 2/24/2015 7:31 PM EST  Serjent Calmash Are you effing kidding me????? Who is responsible for the achievements you have listed? I bet the SFG will make the same claim, (probably that is where you have got it from) but none or very little is down to them.     topclan @ 2/24/2015 7:14 PM EST  Prince Rageh "Sarmaan ramses, your writing is mediocre. Is like you talking it baffles me that you claim to be a phD and MBA holder. You need to polish your writing skills. Is diabolical." This is a diversion from what the article is about. You are not willing to challenge the article, what you basically do is try to attack his writing. It's ironic, really! He is a Somali citizen, therefore he has the right to criticize the Somali government. Don't you believe in freedom of speech? Anyone should be able to criticize Somali leaders, as long as it's not clannish or disrespectful. Do seriously think the author is clannish or disrespectful? What the author of this article is doing is his duty as a Somali citizen because he wants to see the government make tangible progress. We need more articles like this not less. The author is on point in every failure of this government. Recently we have had very informative articles and I thank the authors for the public service which their government has failed to provide. I would like to see these articles translated into Somali so that more of the public may better understand it. Unfortunately, I can't write in Somali but I am trying to improve. Eternal vigilance is the price we must pay in order to have good governance. We must be respectful and not be clannish but also complain and mobilise to have change tangible progress.     Zami @ 2/23/2015 6:27 PM EST  Don't forget MP Mohamed Warsame Mohamed from Puntland had a very suspicious death. He was the most outspoken MP against Hassan Sheikhs attempts to over throw the first PM Shirdon. MP Mohamed went to a meeting at Villa Somalia to meet with Hassan Sheikh about his objections. Moments after driving away from the meeting his car blew up. He was assassinated. Lots of good Somalis' have had suspicious targeted assassinations conspired against them, it's diabolical. I know al-Shabaab is not responsible for all of them. Hassan Sheikh is an embarrassment & criminal.  He should be in prison.

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