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wiifgarow @ 6/11/2015 9:30 AM EST  OK Tops, must have misread your political views. I thought you were calling for death to empirialism and colonialism. Clearly not. You are obviously a well grounded and pargmatic character who knows whose side his Muufo is macsared. Good on you. It does make a little less interesting but never mind..boring people are wise.     sonofsomalia @ 6/9/2015 3:29 PM EST  Zami   "Nuremberg Trials" were for crimes against humanity. What those men are guilty of is treason against the Somali nation and people. Unfortunately in Somalia only those of lower tribes are prosecuted, while the likes of Qoslaye, and his buddies are free to plunder the national name for the benefit of their masters. But all is not lost, there is hope Somalia's dark ages will end with traitors running after their masters.       Zami @ 6/9/2015 3:10 PM EST  sonofsomalia, Somalia needs Nuremberg Trials.     sonofsomalia @ 6/9/2015 12:41 PM EST  Zami    Supporting Ethiopian rebels or irrendentism is not in our interest at this point. We need to reclaim lands from the various traitors and collaborators running around first. Unfortunately, the cheerleaders are convinced they are supporting tribal interest by supporting traitors, be it that smilling fool in Mogadishu, his whale of prime minister, that ex shabab puppet in Kismayo, crook in Baydoa, narcissist in Garowe or senile old man in Hargaysa.       Zami @ 6/8/2015 7:01 PM EST  topclan, "The US has had military bases in Germany, Japan, France for decades and it had even stationed its nuclear weapons in Turkey." All those countries will be targeted by Russian nuclear weapons because they are apart of NATO. Russia has already stated publicly it will attack ALL NATO members in case of war. So all the countries you listed are targets for nuclear annihilation.   "Ethiopia doesn't have on US military base on its soil, Somalia doesn't need to either but they cannot sit back and allow Ethiopia to dictate the policy on the Horn of Africa." Ethiopia has a US base in the country, this is a fact. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-drone-base-in-ethiopia-is-operational/2011/10/27/gIQAznKwMM_story.html Ethiopia is a joke. They support destructive elements in Somali society to ruin Somalia. It's these Somali traitors who are Somalias biggest threat. Somalia could support ONLF, OLF, Ginbot 7 and others if Ethiopia continues to meddle.     topclan @ 6/8/2015 6:16 PM EST  Zami The US has had military bases in Germany, Japan, France for decades and it had even stationed its nuclear weapons in Turkey. None of these countries have had any problem by having US military bases on their soil. Ethiopia doesn't have on US military base on its soil, Somalia doesn't need to either but they cannot sit back and allow Ethiopia to dictate the policy on the Horn of Africa. I don't like the anti crowd, all that matters is how we can secure your interests and we should take the opportunity with anyone who can help us. We don't want a relationship that only benefits, we want that is good for Somalia too. I don't even h4te Ethiopia believe it or not, my h4te for them comes from the fact that they are an existential threat to Somalia. If Ethiopia changed its policy of destruction towards Somalia and destabilising national government, then I will be willing to change my hostilities towards them. If we can have a good relationship there is no point in fixating on the past.     Zami @ 6/7/2015 11:51 AM EST  topclan, "Somalia is already a pawn on the geopolitical game in the horn." "Somalia cannot just sit and wait while Ethiopia are playing geopolitical game and using Somalia as a pawn." Actually we ar not. Djibouti for example is a pawn, it's fate rests on foreign military bases on it's soil. It is also a target of Iranian missiles in case of a war. Being a pawn in the 'game' of geo-politics in our region isn't a game. You risk war, probably nuclear. Somalia has more internal problems, than it does external. Hostile nations exploit the clan structure of Somalia, it's that simple. The Somali people will never be pawns of any country. Un-elected leaders and so called "presidents" will be, they're traitors.     topclan @ 6/7/2015 11:24 AM EST  Wiif I am not sure what your complaint is, that we are anti-colonialist/empirealist  or that we are hypocrites? Well, if we are hypocrites, then surely we are made for each other, aren't we? To my mind, the US has never been colonialist and, in fact, was itself a colony. The US empire isn't like the European empires and it isn't only Somalia which is under US empire, is it?     topclan @ 6/7/2015 11:17 AM EST  Zami "Doesn't mean Somalia & The US have the same interests." Yes, different interests but mutual benefits. "The US needs a permanent presence in all international water ways. It would not be a global power without it." Newsflash! The US has been a global power since WW1. If Somalia doesn't do something it will simply be a collateral damage. Somalia is already a pawn on the geopolitical game in the horn. Somalia cannot just sit and wait while Ethiopia are playing geopolitical game and using Somalia as a pawn.     wiifgarow @ 6/7/2015 9:22 AM EST  Top I just think it si weird to have the biggest empire on earth and the most powerful ex colonial pwoer ever as your feeders, funders, armourers and allies as you said and still claim to be anti imperialist and anti colonialist. But that is perhaps just me. What do I know about the convuluted thinking mechanisms of the Wallaweyn mind?     Zami @ 6/6/2015 2:47 PM EST  topclan, "Like it or not, the US is still the most dominant force in the world and Somalia lies in a very important geopolitical position so it would foolish not to take advantage of that." Doesn't mean Somalia & The US have the same interests. The US needs a permanent presence in all international water ways. It would not be a global power without it. Somalia should avoid becoming a pawn in the 'game' of geo-politics. We should not play the 'game' at all, regardless of our strategic position.     topclan @ 6/6/2015 12:53 PM EST  Wiif "Is this the trendy leftie, anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, occupy muufo-town cool boy that I knew?" What are you talking about? Was there any group in Somalia who isn't anti-colonialist and anit-imperialist? Are you saying you can't have the US as a strategic partner and be anti-colonialist and anti-imperialist at the same time? There is a difference between having a mutual beneficial relationship and being colonised. We are not anti-US, if that is what are getting at. So you interpret Somalia's interest to mean my clan's interest? I am sorry if you think Somalia's interests clash with Somaliland's because when I said Somalia I mean including Somaliland.     topclan @ 6/6/2015 12:45 PM EST  Zami "The forces destabilizing Somalia are ally's of the US." They are not allies just to destabilise Somalia but because they want to protect their interests. US policy may in some ways help Ethiopia, but the US and Ethiopia are not after the same thing in Somalia. Somalia cannot just sit and accept this, it has to make a new relationship with the US which benefits Somalia. The key is Somalia's relationship with other nations, especially super powers like the US. Like it or not, the US is still the most dominant force in the world and Somalia lies in a very important geopolitical position so it would foolish not to take advantage of that.     wiifgarow @ 6/6/2015 8:35 AM EST  "Having the US as a strategic partner almost guarantees Somalia protection from external forces who intend to destabilise Somalia." Is this the trendy leftie, anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, occupy muufo-town cool boy that I knew? Now he wanst to sup with the devil because he saw the light in the unmistakable shape of his clan's interests? Hallelujah! Reminds me of that ol Somalialnd saying " Even an Fiqih never chooses patradise..over the interests of his clan"     wiifgarow @ 6/6/2015 8:32 AM EST  SoS Thzat is a clasic(demented?) Somali thinking. Lets all descend to hell and pull down anyone who dares to climb out of the place. Classic Wallweyn 'thinking' if that is not an oxymoron. Thanks for reiterating it.     Zami @ 6/5/2015 5:36 PM EST  topclan, "Having the US as a strategic partner almost guarantees Somalia protection from external forces who intend to destabilise Somalia." The forces destabilizing Somalia are ally's of the US. I just don't trust the country. Are you forgetting the Iraq War WMD's? They killed a million people & said "it was a mistake". We really don't need any relations with the US, but do to Somalias' geo-strategic position we have alot of power. We can decide who will control the Bab el-Mandeb, Gulf of Aden, Arabian Sea & Indian Ocean. Somalia could control the flow of energy to Europe, thats why the EU is so involved. The want to be allied with Somalia to secure they're energy flow. No other country in the world has such a strategic position of power geo-politically, but don't count on Hassan Sheikh to understand this. The man has failed the Somali people.     topclan @ 6/5/2015 3:43 PM EST   Correction: You only have value to other nations when you can further or protect their interests,     topclan @ 6/5/2015 3:34 PM EST  Zami I am supporting a strategic pact with the US not just for financial gain and military training but the doors it opens too. The point is you have to be aware of our status and what we can offer, even if our previous relationship with wasn't good, there is no reason why we can't have one now. Let me put it this way, if the US has a strategic pact with Somalia would it do the things you listed and put its interests in jeopardy? Having the US as a strategic partner almost guarantees Somalia protection from external forces who intend to destabilise Somalia. You only have value to other nations when you can further their interest, a stateless Somalia would have struggled to be of any value to the US. I don't know exactly the reason why the US did those things but I am sure it was done in the interest of the US. Now it can be different, the US and Somalia can have a relationship which can further both nations interests.     sonofsomalia @ 6/5/2015 10:35 AM EST  Zami  Traitors and cheerleaders, Somalia has plenty of those.       Zami @ 6/5/2015 9:43 AM EST  sonofsomalia, Since the John Kerry visit I have notificed a slow down in travels to Addis by our un-elected officials. I give it a few weeks before they revert back to they're old habits. That traitor Abdullahi Yusuf taught them everything they know. May he burn in hell, the warmonger.     sonofsomalia @ 6/5/2015 8:02 AM EST  Fiqi,    Then explain why your clan president is running to Adis every second day, or why your cousins in NW are falling over each other to celebrad the universary of Ethiopian party while denying Somali citizens the right to land. One thing I enjoy seeing is clanlands denying their relationship with Ethiopia.     Nuunow @ 6/5/2015 1:43 AM EST  Abukar Arman, Well done! This is very enlightening and eye-opening article indeed!     FiqiJin @ 6/4/2015 10:42 PM EST  Arman is a good Somali; however, like many other Somalis, he falls for " Somalia being a victim of especially Ethiopia" crap. Shouldn't we Somalis expect anything bad from our enemies! It is Ethiopia's best interest to see Somalia in taters. What enemy wouldn't take advantage of their enemy on the robes? We Somalis have done this to ourselves, and it will take us to fix our problems. Ethiopia didn't force us Somalis to do to ourselves all the stupid things we have been doing to us and country since 1991!       Zami @ 6/4/2015 5:01 PM EST  displacing***     Zami @ 6/4/2015 5:00 PM EST  topclan, "Somalia must seek US as a strategic ally and this Djibouti-China deal has opened the door for Somalia to become a big player again." My problem with the US is trust, I have a right not to trust the intentions of this country. 1) Funding Warlords 2) Leading the Ethiopian invasion of Somalia, which created al-Shabaab & killed tens of thousands, displaying a million These two points clearly tells me the US is hostile towards us. I will only trust the US if they 1) Rebuild, retrain & equip the SNA 2) Rebuild, retrain & equip the SNAF (Air Force) 3) Rebuild, retrain & equip the SNN (Navy) 4) Infrastructure (Roads, Railways, Highways & Ports) 5) Human Rescource Capabilities (So we can maintain, repair & create our own infrastructure. If the US helped Somalia in this way I would change my view of the country, In the mean time it's dark legacy will always haunt the minds of Somalis'. The US has to earn our trust.     stickorcarrot @ 6/4/2015 4:42 PM EST  Wiif, No, disingenuity has no cure if there's one Hargaisa would have behaved more sanely! And Somalis are not hellbent to keep you in Somalia. Make clear your argument and then see if Somalis would care where you go. Make it clear, you want your tribal enclave. Stop dignifying colonial non-existent border and make it clear your family objective. Name it United Isaq nation and let all other tribes to stop intervening your land. I will be the 1st to defend your right to take your land and join Ethiopia, Arab or wherever else your origin is if it is not from Somalia!     stickorcarrot @ 6/4/2015 4:31 PM EST   Abukar is not perfect and no one can claim perfection. But he is more honest and patriotic than all the tribal worshipers in Somalia. Abukar can pen an opinion about Somalia and then all Ethiopia lovers clan fiefdoms darlings will insult him. They will not refute his points but they will personally attack. I think we should learn accommodating different views and perhaps then we could find a solution to our problems.     topclan @ 6/4/2015 3:29 PM EST  Ally Baz It seems confusing but I think what Mr Arman means is that the Afar people in Ethiopia might start making problems in Djibouti. In Somalia's case, it is not difficult why Somalis everywhere would feel more Somali than Ethiopian or Kenyan. Ethiopia and Kenya are home many ethnicities and religions while Somalia is the most homogenous country in Africa.     topclan @ 6/4/2015 3:14 PM EST  Zami There are no permanent enemies or allies, there is only interest. Somalia must seek US as a strategic ally and this Djibouti-China deal has opened the door for Somalia to become a big player again.     topclan @ 6/4/2015 3:12 PM EST  Mr Arman is as Somali nationalist as anyone. So, please, stop insulting him. Somalia is not united today and that is why Mr Arman said the formerly known as Somalia, it has only got the shell of nation. No country can continue to exist with unity. What don't people get about projecting? Ethiopia is projecting itself as peaceful and problem solvers in order to further its interests. In the arena of international politics, state dress themselves up to appear something they are not. Mr Arman is saying Ethiopia pretending to be something it is not and it has worked in some ways because its has managed to advance its interests in Somalia.     Zami @ 6/4/2015 2:59 PM EST  topclan, It was five days. These people are sick.     topclan @ 6/4/2015 2:45 PM EST  Wiif Well, if the US recognised self declared state, you would accuse it of dictating to African people or playing the divide and rule game. Your problem is not with US or other Western nations, it is with Africans. The US and West's policy is for Africa to recognise self-declared states before they can do otherwise it will be seen as neo-colonialism interference. No one wants to start dividing African nations unless there is special case like South Sudan. What you didn't mention is that the countries you've listed are not as homogenous as Somalia. "I was not aware America is advocating for strong Unified China and Korea " Could that have any to do with those two countries being US rivals? "I am indeed comparing myself to Yugoslavia except that the Yugoslavs never suffered nowhere near the brutality siffered by the people of Somaliland." Wow!!! Tell that to people who were ethnically cleansed. Not only were the people of the former Yugoslavia made up of different ethnicity and religion, there was ethnic cleansing. The same thing goes for others, including the Kosavo Albanians. You are talking US hypocrisy on a unified country, did you not know about American civil war? Only Wiif can compare these countries to Somaliland, why dooesn't he actually name a country that is very to similar to Somaliland that has been recognised. Here's Wiif submission for recognition: Our clan was not given enough power and we were massacred by a dictatorship, also we had been a state for 6 days.     sonofsomalia @ 6/4/2015 9:11 AM EST  Wiif     Your presence in the madhouse is necessary to maintain order, we do not want the other much more psychotic members to get ideas. Beside what you to lose in new madhouse, I understand your PTSD will not let you forget, but its a new dawn.     wiifgarow @ 6/4/2015 8:24 AM EST  Fiqijin I was not aware America is advocating for strong Unified China and Korea but you have apoint on Iraq and Yemen. They are wrong on both. They only tiem they seem to advoacte for unity is when the countries in question are third world hellholes. The questin is thsi who decides when separation is 'justfied'? The peopel who want the separation, those they are separating from or perhaps a third neutral party?     wiifgarow @ 6/4/2015 8:20 AM EST  So We are indeed all demented clans but some of us are more demented than others. We decided to be demented on our own. why are you so hellbent in keeping us in the madhouse?     wiifgarow @ 6/4/2015 8:16 AM EST  I am indeed comparing myself to Yugoslavia except that the Yugoslavs never suffered nowhere near the brutality siffered by the people of Somaliland. Neither did they suffer 30 years of blatant misrule and discrimination prior to the civil war. So yes absolutely. An excelelnt and glaring example of Western including Us hypocrisy and double standards. Isdabiib adba waad u baahantee. That i if disingenuity has treatment.     FiqiJin @ 6/4/2015 7:31 AM EST  "Unified" sounds like a horrific betrayal of all the principles America claims to uphold in the rst of the world but clearly not in Africa." Actually, America has been very consistent on that, except where division is so warranted, like former Yugoslavia. I mean America has stood for the territorial integrity, as one unified country, of the USA (by force), Iraq, Yemen, Germany, Korea, Nigeria and even China, among others! Yugoslavia had to be broken up, because of a sectarian-based war crimes. Sudan's breakup was negotiated among the warring parties. Somalia can breakup, and the US will not stand in the way of that, if and only if Somalis were to accept that as a result of a negotiation--something the illegal outfit knows will not happen. There will be no negotiation on dividing Somalia!       Stickorcarrot @ 6/3/2015 10:54 PM EST  Wiif, You think you know my tribal heritage but indeed you're as off as humanly possible. I do not know any Somali sub clan that has beef particularly with those three sub clans I listed. You are right, most Somalis can't claim being free from tribal loyalty. It's in our genes. But most Somalis would not go as far as you to align the "devil" to advance their tribal interest! Zero-sum game is not the game we should play. If You can be proud of your tribal heritage without belittling others. You can advocate for the right of your tribe & still be fair to the others. You don't have align yourself with the 'devil' to advance your tribal interest. And certainly, you don't have to advocate secession and create animosity among Somalis to achieve your tribal goal.     Stickorcarrot @ 6/3/2015 10:33 PM EST  Wiif, So, your case is comparable to Yugoslavia, Czech & Slovakia? please is dabiib! You want to stay away from "Somali" name and yet you're using "Somali" name in your little tribal hut that you fabricated in NW Somalia. As for the poem I posted the other day, it's not mine. I even gave you the link of the youtube page. It's was not well written i admit, but it painted the real picture of your uncles' debacle.     sonofsomalia @ 6/3/2015 2:58 PM EST  Wiif   Self determination on what basis, you are one tribe among the hundred of demented tribes that make up the dysfunctional Somali family. In Tibet, Yuguslavia and Serbia we are talking about ethnic variance, unless you chewed so much that you believe yourself to be of different ethnic group than lowly Somalis. Not to even mention your dream to recreate the British East African Colony.       wiifgarow @ 6/3/2015 10:09 AM EST  "Unified" sounds like a horrific betrayal of all the principles America claims to uphold in the rst of the world but clearly not in Africa. It did not encourage a 'Unfied' Yugoslavia or 'Unfied' Serbioa or 'Unified' Czechoslovakia did it? It does not advocate 'Unified' China with Taiwan and its moments of self-righteousness even does not call for @unfied' China with tibet. But us black people outr rights dont matter. Our Gods are lesser Gods. Out sdelf-determination carries no value. This the world according American policy in africa     sonofsomalia @ 6/2/2015 11:16 PM EST  Poor Abukar, he seems to have purchased the American public statements are indicative of their actual plans. Ethiopian and Kenya activities can easily be reversed, if they ever challenge American interest in the horn. He is right in once instance, US tried for a time to move away from its parannial containment policy, unfortunately Hassan Sheik has shown his colors and love for the status quo.     Zami @ 6/2/2015 10:58 PM EST  Abukar Arman seems to be suggesting we allow the US to open military bases in our country. I like his articles, but I'm getting sick & tired of him portraying Ethiopia & Kenya as strong countries. Kenya tried to set up a buffer zone in Somalia, what happened? Somalia ended up creating a federal member state with a warlord in power of nothing. Madobe literally has no authority outside Kismayo. He will eventually be voted out of office come elections. Ethiopia is a joke. The central government does not control the military. The country has been exposed worldwide as being tyrannical & genocidal. There are 10 different resistance groups fighting the central government. ONLF control 40% of the Ogaden. Ethiopia is finished. Kenya has lost hundreds of civilians & now has a domestic terrorism threat inside its borders. They're "buffer zone" project has actually destabilized Kenya & strengthened Somalia! No Somali should view these countries as a threat they will disintegrate from domestic pressure.

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